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re: Rich Baris destroys Ben Shapiro as a total fraud for not talking about election integrity

Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:59 pm to
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When Ben Shapiro is right, I think he is as good as any other at explaining the substance behind the subject.


Agree.

But Ben has a fairly large blind spot.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:59 pm to
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Does it not matter that he goes scorched earth on Biden, the left, and wokeism daily?



No because he didn’t agree with Trump 100% of the time.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:37 pm to
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destroys Ben Shapiro as a total fraud
Is this much of a feat?
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:38 pm to
I totally agree with Baris, and have only listened to Shapiro's pod seven times ever.

As Ben on tv guest appearances has always swam in but a few special interest lanes. And quickly tends to veer away from the very important subjects du jours if not up his interest alley.

Baris, Keshel, Waldron, Navarro, etc..should be the guys people are seeking and listening to.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:43 pm to
whether you like shapiro or not, he knows exactly how to deal with the left. he will be one of the few guys on the right to never get cancelled, and that's a good thing
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:44 pm to
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I think he is right - why aren't influential conservatives sounding the alarms about the non violent offenders from January 6 rotting away in jail with no bail, no charges, and bad legal representation?


Any specific information on this?

While I know that the vast majority of people involved in Jan 6th were non-violent, a handful were.

Who is being held, when were they arrested, how many have been arrested/detained and released, of the ones arrested how many haven't been offered bail, lots of questions to properly frame this situation before I fly off the handles and have my wife chime in off camera like Rich Baris.
Posted by Pookers
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:45 pm to
He doesn't get cancelled because theres no truth to be found in him. Only those whom speak the truth are cancelled.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:55 pm to
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...because theres no truth to be found in him. Only those whom speak the truth are cancelled.


He's against shutdowns, against paying people not to work, won't recognize transgendered people's claim to be a different gender nor supports their attempts to get into the locker rooms/gyms/bathrooms/sports teams of their opposite biological gender, is against cancel culture, constantly calls out Progressive Media's (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NTYs, etc._) gaslighting, rails against social media's ever changing rules and regs that are only applied to conservatives, wants immigration laws followed, is pro-life, etc., etc., etc.

For some reason the people who know the least about Shapiro seem to hate him the most. This is true of conservatives and progressives.

Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:26 pm to
Shapiro’s ego is much bigger then it should be . He seems to want to down republicans who are bigger names then him .
Posted by MeatPants
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:26 pm to
Enough is enough with all this

It’s time to shite or get off the pot. I have my own doubts about the election. But fricking prove it. Meaningful evidence that changed the election in a state

Rich baris and guys like him have been bitching about this for half a year now. Give people something real. Until then this is just getting tiring
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:02 pm to
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Rich baris and guys like him have been bitching about this for half a year now.


I wonder what his take on the Kraken was...
Posted by Linoge
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:05 pm to
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whether you like shapiro or not, he knows exactly how to deal with the left. he will be one of the few guys on the right to never get cancelled, and that's a good thing


Because he is one of the Left. He is controlled opposition just like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, and George Bush and the rest.



Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:33 pm to
Ben is a rini
Posted by InBRagainstmywill
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:56 am to
He's very talented but will probably never change from being so pro war. Nick Fuentes has definitely stolen some of his crowd of youngsters.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:04 am to
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The thought that Ben is anti-Trump is bull shite...again, if you actually bother to listen.


The thought that Ben Shapiro is not a neocon chicken hawk is bull shite… again, if you actually bother to listen.

Shapiro only become pro-Trump when Trump reversed his promise to extract our nation form these interminable wars of perpetual occupation and committed ever more troops to Afghanistan and further continued to lock down on military intervention in Syria, Yemen and beyond.

THE RIFT OPENS: Ingraham, Breitbart, Carlson SLAM Trump’s Afghanistan Policy. But Trump Is Right.

During the campaign, Trump said that going into Afghanistan in the first place – in response to 9/11 – was a “terrible mistake.” He walked that position back a few weeks later. But his biggest advocates saw Trump as an isolationist force on Afghanistan: they believed that Trump would withdraw from the country as soon as possible.

So they were quite disappointed on Monday night when Trump announced a moderate troop escalation of 4,000, and announced that he would pursue a “win” in Afghanistan.

….Talk show host Laura Ingraham, one of Trump’s biggest boosters isn’t the only Trump ally upset with the president. Breitbart headlined Trump’s “flip-flop” and compared Trump’s strategy with Obama’s. Brian Darling of Breitbart wrote, “I voted for Donald J. Trump because he promoted a foreign policy of restraint…I voted for Donald J. Trump because he promised change. I may have made a mistake.” Tucker Carlson, too, went after Trump….

It’s not shocking to see some of Trump’s most ardent friends ripping Trump over his Afghanistan plan. But they’re actually wrong….

Our investment in the war on terror, despite the popular argument, has been effective….Trump is right to change orientation in Afghanistan. And his critics should see that this is perhaps the first concrete evidence of Trump listening in a productive way to those around him.




https://www.dailywire.com/news/syria
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:12 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:23 am to
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No because he didn’t agree with Trump 100% of the time.


This ignores the reality that the issues where Shapiro most supported Trump not only undermined Trump’s promised MAGA agenda, it perfectly coalesced with the progressive left’s globalist schemes. Indeed, one of Trump’s biggest failing as President was not following through on his MAGA promise to extract the United States Military from these perpetual wars.

Shapiro and his neocon brethren in Conservative Inc.® ultimately stand as testament to why a vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. The current crisis continues until the true supporters of limited government purge these imperialist stooges from their ranks.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:26 am to
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Because he is one of the Left. He is controlled opposition just like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, and George Bush and the rest.



You got that right right. Look at the very language that Shapiro uses to defend this era of perpetual warfare:

Our investment in the war on terror, despite the popular argument, has been effective. “Our investment….”

That term has been lifted straight out of the progressive left’s vocabulary. Anytime some politico uses the word “investment” for their pet agenda, it is shorthand for a failed expenditure that seeks to pour ever more wheelbarrows of money into a bottomless pit.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:31 am to
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Ben is a rini


Wrong. Ben is a Republican in both word and deed since Shapiro supports a perpetual Global Military Empire.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:43 am to
God forbid he criticize an extremely flawed politician. Trump wasn't exactly a mastermind when it came to pushing the agenda.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:25 am to
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Trump wasn't exactly a mastermind when it came to pushing the agenda.




In contrast, Shapiro certainly has proven to be a mastermind of having supposed supporters of limited government grovel at Shapiro’s feet and unfailingly serve as apologists for the Imperial agenda that underlies Shapiro’s brand of neoconservatism.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:51 pm
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