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re: RFK Jr. admits his internal polling indicates his independent run hurts DJT the most.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:48 am to GumboPot
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:48 am to GumboPot
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It seems a lot of people believe it's the opposite. That an RFK independent run hurts Biden.
I'm hoping RFK's internal polling is a national sample with a heavy Northeast skew and not necessarily a sample of WI, GA and AZ. I could certainly see RFK pulling more Trump leaning voters from Trump in the Northeast but outside the Northeast that voting pattern may not follow. At a more granular state level where it matters RFK's independent run might help Trump in states like WI, GA and AZ.
I don't believe for one fricking second this hurts Trump. In fact, if it actually happens, I believe it gives Trump the Presidency.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:51 am to Pandy Fackler
If an Independent doesn’t want Trump and doesn’t want commie Gav and RFKjr is on the ballot, what do you think they do?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:54 am to Pandy Fackler
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I don't believe for one fricking second this hurts Trump. In fact, if it actually happens, I believe it gives Trump the Presidency.
IDK with much confidence right now. My guess is that it hurts Trump in the Northeast in states that really don't matter and slightly helps him in states where it does matter. Need more granular polling though to increase my confidence in this hypothesis.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:54 am to GumboPot
No shite.
Said this last week and was down voted for it.
Said this last week and was down voted for it.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
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THose aren't the people that win or lose elections. The vast middle is.
Exactly. It’s the people who haven’t even remotely thought of the term election fraud or engaged in any political discourse online.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:59 am to robinette
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epstein-living goons.
The same Epstein that Trump banned from his properties?
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Obviously no one with half a brain would vote for either, son.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:00 am to RifleDriver
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Trump is a loser in 2024 no matter who runs.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:05 am to roadGator
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If an Independent doesn’t want Trump and doesn’t want commie Gav and RFKjr is on the ballot, what do you think they do?
I don't know what the stats, percentages or numbers are but I've never met one single, so called independent or moderate that didn't vote for a Democrat.
So what sort of voter will Kennedy actually steal from Trump or someone like Desantis? Any Northeastern RINO for instance wouldn't vote for Trump or a true conservative like Desantis anyway, so where's the loss? If the so called "moderate" votes at all, he's voting Democrat.
I just don't see the "hurts Trump" angle here and I'm not selective in the polls I trust. None can be trusted.
If Kennedy actually does this (And I'll believe it when I see it). When the time is right, he'll drop out and the time will be right when he's certain he gets the cabinet position he wants.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 9:10 am
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:11 am to GumboPot
RFK is a leftist leech that only the ignorance of many in the MAGA media has allowed to become relevant.
He is proof that people want somebody other than Biden and Trump.
Any of the republicans besides Trump would get the votes RFK would get. They would easily defeat Biden or any other democrat. Would have in 2020 too.
He is proof that people want somebody other than Biden and Trump.
Any of the republicans besides Trump would get the votes RFK would get. They would easily defeat Biden or any other democrat. Would have in 2020 too.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
Manchin will have to run as the No Labels top of the ticket to pull support from Biden.
If that occurs, I think we could see 3 independent candidates (West, RFK Jr., and No Labels) all pulling 3-5% of the vote. Race would get super crazy in swing states.
If that occurs, I think we could see 3 independent candidates (West, RFK Jr., and No Labels) all pulling 3-5% of the vote. Race would get super crazy in swing states.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:23 am to GumboPot
Democrats donors will fund his campaign if Biden stays in the race.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
quote:because a big part of it does - Trump slowed down their grift; 1st POTUS in many decades to do so - that’s why they hate him
They behave as if their livelihoods depend on a Trump defeat.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:38 am to GumboPot
The NPCs here ate it all up and even wanted that loon to be Trumps VP.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
Louie Cream Pai Pai @ Meatball central FBI headquarters with his ronbot gang of trolls: will suddenly love tCTH.
Just in the same way Displaced Buckeye loved him some Kasich and NavyTiger bought Jeb!'s guac bowl.
This brings the neocon neverTrumpers great relief & pure joy. But they are conservatives & to the right of nuns on abortion ya'll...
Can we discuss Vivek's purpose?
Also: will Cornell West take votes from Newsom, or thee Gov of MI and Stacey as VP?
Just in the same way Displaced Buckeye loved him some Kasich and NavyTiger bought Jeb!'s guac bowl.
This brings the neocon neverTrumpers great relief & pure joy. But they are conservatives & to the right of nuns on abortion ya'll...
Can we discuss Vivek's purpose?
Also: will Cornell West take votes from Newsom, or thee Gov of MI and Stacey as VP?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
quote:water is wet.
This is all about stopping Donald Trump.
democrats are nothing if not resourceful at stacking the deck.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:42 am to GumboPot
I wouldn't have thought this would be the case. I could see a few but not more than Biden considering RFK is quite liberal on most things. The only thing I really agree with him on is the vax, CIA issues.
Considering he really goes after the vax which was Trumps baby and Trump was running on it 2020, maybe this is why he pulls more from Trump than Biden.
IDK, I could see it both ways I guess. RFK has that sort of go after the swamp in terms of CIA, FDA, NIH, etc and maybe that pulls more away from DJT.
Considering he really goes after the vax which was Trumps baby and Trump was running on it 2020, maybe this is why he pulls more from Trump than Biden.
IDK, I could see it both ways I guess. RFK has that sort of go after the swamp in terms of CIA, FDA, NIH, etc and maybe that pulls more away from DJT.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:46 am to GumboPot
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IDK with much confidence right now. My guess is that it hurts Trump in the Northeast in states that really don't matter and slightly helps him in states where it does matter. Need more granular polling though to increase my confidence in this hypothesis.
We're all in the situation where we absolutely cannot trust polls and analytics. With that in mind, we're left to trust our intuition, what we see and feel in our daily lives and historical observations. Nothing about those three things tells me for one second this hurts Trump or any Republican candidate.
This Kennedy thing is a frickin' smelly fish. Nevermind what this may or may not do the the election. The question is what does this do for Kennedy himself?
There's no psy-op here. No conspiratorial angle. The only question (as with any politician) is what's in it for said politician?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:46 am to robinette
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Obviously no one with half a brain would vote for either, son.
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robinette
And here we have a loser with no brain whatsoever posting on a message board.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:58 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:No conspiratorial things?
This Kennedy thing is a frickin' smelly fish. Nevermind what this may or may not do the the election. The question is what does this do for Kennedy himself?
There's no psy-op here. No conspiratorial angle. The only question (as with any politician) is what's in it for said politician?
Kennedy clamored for Secret Service again.
Where is this fake U.S. Federal Marshal now?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:04 am to bamabonners
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No shite. That's probably been his role all along. To get the moderates...
Lol, moderates aren't voting for this lunatic.
Clinton era Democrat policies, conspiracies for anti Vax, anti 3 letter agency.
Dude is a poster child for Clinton era Democrats who formed the MAGA core with the tea party.
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