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Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:15 pm to Fun Bunch
This will make them truly afraid. Even if they manage to get rid of Trump, whoever's left could beat Joe if he's got a boomer liberal hero's son to fight.
Reverse Perot. I dig it.
Reverse Perot. I dig it.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Certainly think this hurts Biden more than Trump, but the map simply isn’t that big in 2024. Trump needs to claw back or flip some combination of:
Georgia,
Arizona,
Nevada,
Wisconsin,
Michigan,
Pennsylvania
And Biden’s only possible pick up is North Carolina.
That’s it. It’s a seven state election. And RFK’s most famous stance will be his anti-vax views, and that will land more with Right in some of those states than with the Left.
Georgia,
Arizona,
Nevada,
Wisconsin,
Michigan,
Pennsylvania
And Biden’s only possible pick up is North Carolina.
That’s it. It’s a seven state election. And RFK’s most famous stance will be his anti-vax views, and that will land more with Right in some of those states than with the Left.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:19 pm to Fun Bunch
I think he finally opened his eyes when they changed rules for partitioning of delegate votes and I think what really pushed him over the edge was when the DNC said he and the others not named Biden would need to start paying for primaries because, as far as they were concerned, they already had their candidate. There was no way for him to say things were anywhere close to level and fair.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:21 pm to tommy2tone1999
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this will split the Dem vote.
Not even a bit. Not sure why you guys keep dishing this shite.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:22 pm to Fun Bunch
Dems are screwed. Their party is a mess.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:28 pm to Fun Bunch
If my choices are, RFK jr, Biden, or Trump..... RFK all day every day.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:30 pm to dpd901
If Trump is not on the ballot, I will likely vote for Kennedy. Even if he's a crackpot.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:30 pm to Fun Bunch
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RFK announcing that he will run as an Independent
Legit game changer right there.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:32 pm to Fun Bunch
The Dems will have to make peace and respect RFK or it will get nasty for them as he causes a rift in their usual united front. Maybe the make him an offer for power? He is very independent and likely won’t come to heel. I like the guy and think him WAY more honest and less destructive than any Dem in the mix. Will be interesting.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:32 pm to Leto II
quote:
Not even a bit. Not sure why you guys keep dishing this shite.
I think they believe just because they said it that means it's true
LINK
A National Review Writer thinks it will hurt Trump more than Biden
quote:
For all Democrats’ hand-wringing about third-party spoilers, this one will chew more into the GOP’s vote share than that of the Democratic side — particularly if Donald Trump emerges as the Republican Party’s presidential nominee for a third consecutive election cycle.
It’s been a while since Kennedy was the subject of much polling. The early enthusiasm around his campaign has dissipated, and his appeal to Democratic voters has all but disappeared. Just as an example of the low to which Kennedy’s brand has sunk, a CNN/University of New Hampshire poll of Granite State found that only 9 percent of Democratic primary voters still viewed him favorably.
Similarly, views of Kennedy among the GOP may have evolved since the summer. But back in July, a series of national polls of Republican voters found that RFK Jr. would have been welcomed in the GOP. Among registered and likely GOP voters, Kennedy’s favorability rating ranged from 46 to 54 percent — much higher than the share of potential Republican voters who viewed him unfavorably. Moreover, Kennedy’s image among GOP-leaning adults — that is, potential Republican voters who are nonetheless disengaged from the political process — Kennedy’s favorability ratings were even higher.
If Kennedy pulls the trigger on an independent bid in time to secure ballot access (and he has time to do that yet), it presents the GOP with a conundrum. If Trump is the nominee, he will be compelled to spend most of his time and the GOP’s resources on his legal defense against allegations of criminal misconduct. But when he’s actually out on the trail, he’ll have to devote at least a portion of the time he would otherwise dedicate to campaigning against the incumbent Democratic president to keeping Kennedy’s share of the Republican vote down. A non-Trump Republican presidential nominee would likely encounter a similar headache, but Trump’s brand of politics aligns more closely with Kennedy’s than with anyone else’s in the GOP field.
If it materializes, Kennedy’s bid seems less a threat to Biden than another obstacle in Trump’s path back to the White House
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:33 pm to Rebel
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As a catholic, absolutely zero in my catholic group of friends and KoC Council.
Yeah...I mean Biden is technically Catholic
Even though he claims he was raised in black churches and synagogues and who knows what other tall tales he has about his upbringing
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:37 pm to Fun Bunch
Nice...
Problem is, if this board is any indication, he'd pull Trump voters as well.
Look for Tulsi to be his running mate
Problem is, if this board is any indication, he'd pull Trump voters as well.
Look for Tulsi to be his running mate
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:39 pm to Leto II
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this will split the Dem vote.
Not even a bit. Not sure why you guys keep dishing this shite.
Sure it will. The dems who voted for Trump in '16 and then switched to Biden in '20 because Trump is an idiot will vote for RFK.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:39 pm to Fun Bunch
I don't see how this hurts Democrats at all.
Sure, they'll say they'll vote third party, but we all know they'll fall in line. They don't have any principles. Bill Maher types are going to push all these so-called principled Democrats into voting for the Democrats again.
My immediate reaction to this story is that RFK Jr cannot overcome his devotion to the Democrat party.
Sure, they'll say they'll vote third party, but we all know they'll fall in line. They don't have any principles. Bill Maher types are going to push all these so-called principled Democrats into voting for the Democrats again.
My immediate reaction to this story is that RFK Jr cannot overcome his devotion to the Democrat party.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:40 pm to Dday63
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I will likely vote for Kennedy. Even if he's a crackpot.
If RFK runs on "gutting" the NSA, CIA, FBI etc etc, he will get some center right votes.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:40 pm to tommy2tone1999
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If he survives until the election this will split the Dem vote.
The left is so, so, so much better than the right at getting behind whoever their nominee is. While we do purity tests and other stupid shite, they hold their noses and vote for whoever has a D behind their name, whether they like the nominee or not.
This won't hurt the democrats one bit.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:40 pm to Fun Bunch
Some anti vaxxers will vote for him. This might hurt Trump.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:41 pm to Fun Bunch
This could be a strategic move to force the Dems to dump Biden and nominate him.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:42 pm to Fun Bunch
His Second Amendment misgivings make him a no-go for me. I do like the man, though.
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