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re: Reverend Al Sharpton makes up religious lie about Jesus being a refugee
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:54 am to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:54 am to BamaGradinTn
Which we know the vast majority never return home except a possible visit to their handlers...errr... I mean relatives.
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:54 am to Hog on the Hill
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Sharpton was specifically addressing Christians
even then, it's irrelevant
Jesus taught individuals about individual agency in relation to God
Jesus did not teach governmental policy and actually taught his followers to submit to the laws of man while maintaining the righteous path to Heaven
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so his comment is 100% relevant to them.
only if they don't understand their own religion
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:55 am to Hog on the Hill
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No, but I think it's reasonable for you to consider Sharpton's accurate statement about what the Bible says. What you do after that is up to you, your faith, and your reason.
What is unreasonable is to demand, like Sharpton, that the only way to help refugees is to permanently resettle them in this country.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:58 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:That's some messed up stuff right there. How can anyone claim to have a brain and believe in something like that?
Let us pray to Our Lady
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yeah, and as citizens, we get to decide what laws we want. Christians obviously have individual agency, but part of Christianity is that their agency should be informed by Christian morals and values. Looking to the life of Christ is an obvious step in any Christian's agency--I don't understand why this is lost on you. This is clearly relevant to any Christian.
even then, it's irrelevant
Jesus taught individuals about individual agency in relation to God
Jesus did not teach governmental policy and actually taught his followers to submit to the laws of man while maintaining the righteous path to Heaven
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:00 am to Hog on the Hill
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. Christians obviously have individual agency, but part of Christianity is that their agency should be informed by Christian morals and values.
their individual behavior should be led by the teachings of Jesus
governmental policy is something else.
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".
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I don't understand why this is lost on you.
because i understand Christianity and Western Culture (in this instance, secular societies)
i'll give you a nice quote about this
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"Why do the Christian nations, which were so weak in the past compared with Muslim nations begin to dominate so many lands in modern times and even defeat the once victorious Ottoman armies?"..."Because they have laws and rules invented by reason" (emphasis added)
- Ibrahim Muteferrika, Rational basis for the Politics of Nations (1731)
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:01 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:Where did he demand that? Like any other Christian, he justifies his political positions with the morals and values he believes are taught in the Bible. Just about every reverend on earth does what he's doing. They don't all agree, obviously.
What is unreasonable is to demand, like Sharpton, that the only way to help refugees is to permanently resettle them in this country.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:02 am to Hog on the Hill
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he justifies his political positions with the morals and values he believes are taught in the Bible.
he shouldn't do that if he wants to be taken seriously in any discussion about politics above the lowest-level of discourse
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:06 am to Vino24
Jesus was black!
I don't care what any of you say. King David's descendant, Hezekiah, was half bratha.
Definitely half black.
What did Jesus look like?
But here's another photo:
Which one is Jesus?
THE BLACK DUDE!!!
Jesus was black.
I don't care what any of you say. King David's descendant, Hezekiah, was half bratha.
Definitely half black.
What did Jesus look like?
But here's another photo:
Which one is Jesus?
THE BLACK DUDE!!!
Jesus was black.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:07 am to KaiserSoze99
Hahahaha
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:08 am to Vino24
Jesus's family did flee to Egypt after his birth to escape Herod who wanted him killed. I don't typically defend Al Sharpton, but there's nothing factually incorrect in what he said.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:11 am to Vino24
Jesus also said that people should pay their taxes, but Sharpton doesn't care about that.
I guess since it doesn't fit his narrative, it isn't worth him noting.
I guess since it doesn't fit his narrative, it isn't worth him noting.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:12 am to UGATiger26
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Yeah, this was the impression I was under. Didn't Mary and Joseph flee with Jesus to Egypt temporarily because King Herod had ordered all newborn males killed?
But they didn't stay in Egypt. They went back home.
Also Egypt didn't buy them a house. give them a job, give the welfare, and the right to vote.
So not the same at all.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:13 am to UGATiger26
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Didn't Mary and Joseph flee with Jesus to Egypt temporarily because King Herod had ordered all newborn males killed?
But we know that never actually happened, so Sharpton is still a liar.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:14 am to Loserman
Although it may fit the theoretical definition of refugee, the 2 situations that Sharpton draws upon shouldn't be compared as there are so many differences. Furthermore, Jesus's situation (if true) shouldn't be manipulated to further Sharpton's political goals and attack the faith of Christian republicans
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:15 am to Roger Klarvin
1/10
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:16 am to Vino24
I don't think we need an example like that to justify wanting to help the less fortunate. That's the staple of being a good human being. How we do that is certainly up for debate.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:16 am to Vino24
'll be sure to listen to Keeping it Real with Rev Al on Sirius 126 Urban View at noon to see what he has to say about this.
If you really want to make your blood boil, listen to this station for any period of time during the day.
If you really want to make your blood boil, listen to this station for any period of time during the day.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:19 am to REB BEER
Oh shite. I had been meaning to listen to that station but forgot. Always nice to hear what's going on in that parallel universe
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:21 am to sicboy
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I don't think we need an example like that to justify wanting to help the less fortunate.
nothing prevents you from individually helping the less fortunate and doing as Jesus taught
that should have no impact on governmental policy. even if you want to argue, like Hog on the Hill was earlier, that voting is that individual agency, it still doesn't work b/c all you're doing is using a third party (Government) to do the work of Jesus in your place. that isn't what Jesus taught
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