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re: Republicans were winning then shot themselves in the foot with all the abortion crap.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:53 am to blowmeauburn
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:53 am to blowmeauburn
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I don’t understand the point of “winning” if you aren’t going to push the things you fight for. Dems do it all the time (great society, Obama care, build back better, etc). It’s literally the point. We won. We ban abortion. We fight to preserve the ban. Otherwise what is the point of “winning”?
This times infinity! Why have a platform or beliefs if you are not going to follow up your core beliefs.
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Posted on 9/3/21 at 11:27 am to Craig86
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It’s not even a human yet.
you sure?
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I love how Republicans are for the death penalty
Not all repeblicans are for the death penalty. Regardless, don't you think an innocent unborn baby is a little different than someone being sentenced to death for capital murder?
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they are for war
so are democrats
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refused to help poor people who should’ve just had an abortion
maybe poor people should A) get a job or B) stop having babies or C) both
Posted on 9/3/21 at 12:23 pm to Flats
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Gay marriage is not a fight worth having
Federalism is.
Agree...but not worth fighting at the state level.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is a political issue. You need "political gain" to enact your preferred policy. If you lose political power, you'll lose any control on this issue/policy.
Wow, you completely missed the point.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There are plenty of people who would vote Republican for a secure border but won't consider it if that requires abortion bans.
So freaking what? They are two wholly separate issues.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I haven't discussed my feelings on abortion or when cells become a human in this thread, actually.
So what exactly is your position on that issue? It is a critical element of this debate.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The problem is, this is the one issue that creates such a rage in the Left that you legitimately risk losing any political power in supporting.
You keep returning to this. There are much larger issues at play here than this law’s effect on the political matrix.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:02 pm to blowmeauburn
quote:There isn't one.
I don’t understand the point of “winning” if you aren’t going to push the things you fight for.
Democrats have sold Republicans on this idea that if they were "more like democrats" they'd get republican AND democrat votes.
The establishment did that for decades. And they couldn't get anyone elected. What republicans won other than with Trump in the last 20 years? Virtually nothign.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ever notice this rule NEVER applies to democrats?
The problem is, this is the one issue that creates such a rage in the Left that you legitimately risk losing any political power in supporting.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is a democracy. You need more people on your side to win elections. You need to give a shite, especially if you care about the policy.
The problem here is this nation was founded not as a democracy but as a Constitutional Republic. In a Constitutional Republic, natural rights — including the right to life — are not subject to the whims of the majority.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:38 pm to Northwestern tiger
Meanwhile, dems have been all for "birthday abortions." Now that something to hang around their necks.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:45 pm to Auburn1968
I am not pro life.because I think it is politically popular. But everyone in favor of it has already been born. How convenient.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 6:17 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:So you say. Some say the majority of voters elected the current Resident in Chief, too…and you probably believe that also.
majority of this country do not want Roe versus Wade overturned.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 6:36 pm to TigerTatorTots
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I don’t understand why republicans choose to fight this battle. It’s a major turn off to a decent chunk of the younger republicans
Could not be further from the truth. The 40s crowed that are new prefer Trump polices and they also are pro LGBTQ. They also don't give a shite.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 7:11 pm to ShortyRob
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Your non rebuttal is noted.
Your failure to address the age at which there is general scientific acceptance that a fetus becomes sentient is noted.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:41 am to texridder
Your bloodlust is noted.
Why do you hate babies?
Why do you hate babies?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:44 am to Northwestern tiger
You may very well be correct, but the completely unhinged reaction of the Left/Dems to this has certainly blunted any negative effects.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:50 am to udtiger
This is a state matter. Let the citizens of the sovereign state of Texas decide.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:52 am to Taxing Authority
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Democrats have sold Republicans on this idea that if they were "more like democrats" they'd get republican AND democrat votes.
And, I'd just like to point out again in this thread that the OP is ignoring one aspect of this.
Namely, that it assumes that the level of "extreme" this appears is greater than the level of extreme what the Democrats CURRENTLY support is.
This ain't the old world where the options were, "effective ban on abortions" vs "pro-choice but with at least a few reasonable restrcitions".
TODAY, the political sides are "against abortion pretty much all the time" vs "yeah, whenever the frick you want to"
Will their be voters who avoid Republicans for this? Yeah. There will also be voters who look at the current "anything goes" abortion stance from the other side and avoid that.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:07 am to Toomer Deplorable
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The problem here is this nation was founded not as a democracy but as a Constitutional Republic.
I used "democracy" as in, "we vote for our elections".
Doesn't matter if it's a pure democracy or a republic. Multiple levels of elections matter and you need more people on your side to win them all.
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In a Constitutional Republic, natural rights — including the right to life — are not subject to the whims of the majority.
So self defense should also be illegal?
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