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re: Republicans voted against decriminalizing marijuana.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:23 am to redneck hippie
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:23 am to redneck hippie
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There is a weed dispensary on every corner in Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is kind of an outlier with population density and culture.
Similar to not seeing the meth problem in the Southern states until you run right into it.
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:25 am to moneyg
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Is it impossible for you fricking potheads to pay attention to what is going on in the world? The economy is collapsing in front of our eyes, the ruling class is attempting to take control of every aspect of our lives, and you are worrying about pot legalization.
Some of us can multitask.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:26 am to WildManGoose
And there it is. I’m all for legalizing weed. But just legalize it. We don’t need ANOTHER whole level of bureaucracy to make it happen. I’ve come to the realization that weed is likely going to be twice as expensive once it’s widely legal because democrats will want to tax it to death. I’d almost rather buy it on the black market.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:26 am to DarthRebel
It is amazing how passionate some are on legalizing marijuana.
I just want lower taxes and affordable healthcare.
I just want lower taxes and affordable healthcare.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:26 am to Timeoday
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Those who don't either use it responsibly or die. Very simple math and it has worked beautifully in every country that implements it.
It tears down inner cities even where drugs are legal.
I was in Amsterdam in the 90s...
Crackheads looking for spilled drugs in sidewalk cracks
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:27 am to sabes que
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The party of freedom strikes again. All for personal freedom, unless it’s something they don’t like.
If have money to spend on marijuana, you should have the money to purchase your own food, healthcare, housing. You take away my freedom/my personal property rights when I have to purchase those items for you since you elected to buy drugs instead.
It goes both ways.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:31 am to xxTIMMYxx
quote:That might possibly be true, but it is certainly not a freedom-based argument. It's nanny statism.
Just because those are bad and legal doesn’t mean it’s good to compound those issues they cause with more substances that cause problems
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:31 am to DarthRebel
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I just want lower taxes and affordable healthcare.
I just want to be left alone. No government mandating a fricking thing. Whether it be masks, vaccines, marijuana, etc.
I writea check every April for taxes. Besides that, don't bother me.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:31 am to AUHighPlainsDrifter
Right, what issue is it that he finds most important? Because following his logic he shouldn’t care or speak about anything else.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:32 am to Caraway Rye
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Oh great
An 8% federal tax on top of the state taxes
You do realize alcohol is taxed too at the federal level right (as well as tobacco, gasoline, etc)? Did you expect weed wouldn't be? This doesn't mean it's going to show on on your sales receipt next to your state sales tax. That tax is taxed to the distributors and then trickles down to the price of the product.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:32 am to troyt37
quote:Freedom is always the core issue in this country. Everything else you have typed is derivative of that, not in front of it.
Read this entire thread carefully if you want to get an idea about what the libertarian types think is vitally important at this time in our nation.
quote:Oh, it's a slippery slope, alright. A slippery slope into "well, I believe in freedom...except for this ONE thing I am righteous about the government banning for adults".
But lets not act like it isn't the same slippery slope that gay marriage and a thousand other issues are.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:34 am to DarthRebel
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It is amazing how passionate some are on legalizing marijuana.
I just want lower taxes and affordable healthcare.
An valid argument could be made that legalizing medical marijuana would bring down the cost of healthcare
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:43 am to AgSGT
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An valid argument could be made that legalizing medical marijuana would bring down the cost of healthcare
Yup, I think marijuana has a place in society.
Blanket legalization just does not equal some magical awesome outcome. Marijuana has become some "happy pill" to some to ignore the real issues. Here take your pill we have legalized for you and put on your happy face. You will never notice the world crumbling around you
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:44 am to Caraway Rye
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An 8% federal tax on top of the state taxes
A new tax, a new bureaucracy, more govt. regulations, and conservatives here support the bill?
Marijuana should be legalized at the federal level just as alcohol is now and the states should decide individually how they want marijuana to be sold and taxed. The Feds should not be in the marijuana business. They shouldn’t be using marijuana to set up more social programs and making govt. bigger and bigger.
This is not a conservative bill.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:57 am to sabes que
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Yea and alcohol is legal as hell.
you shut your mouth when youre talking to me!
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:08 am to Big Scrub TX
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Freedom is always the core issue in this country. Everything else you have typed is derivative of that, not in front of it.
Yeah? So when are you libertarian types going to start railing on the fact that our country's borders are not secure, and so the rights of Americans are being violated daily by people who are criminals just by being here?
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Oh, it's a slippery slope, alright. A slippery slope into "well, I believe in freedom...except for this ONE thing I am righteous about the government banning for adults".
Right. It's not like the children of drug addicted parents often bear the brunt of their parents addiction or anything, huh? I mean my elementary teacher wife is hallucinating the fact that she deals with grandparents rather than parents 30% percent of the time, because the parents are too wiped out on meth to raise their own kids. She's just making up the story about going to the house of a problem child, to find that the second grader sits and watches porn with his dad after school while dad smokes meth, right? FREEDOM! Right?
Edit to add: I see your downvote. Don't want to talk about it on these terms, do you? Or maybe you just think it's a problem for this a-hole and his son, and not one for society. You may be right, but imagine for a moment sending your 7-8 year old daughter to school with this kid, and having methhead's son talk to her about screwing her until she squirts, because he watches porn with his dad while he smokes meth. Still FREEDOM! Right?
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:09 am to DarthRebel
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Blanket legalization just does not equal some magical awesome outcome. Marijuana has become some "happy pill" to some to ignore the real issues.
I get where you are coming from but folks like my wife was already getting "happy opioid pills" that left her listless, nauseated all the time, undependable and unaware of her surroundings. Medical marijuana revived her life and without any of the negative side effects of opioids.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:12 am to Caraway Rye
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Federal sales tax is now on the menu
I'd trade property taxes, income taxes, licensing fees, etc, etc, etc for a national VAT tax that EVERYONE paid. I'd do that tomorrow if I could.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:19 am to Big Scrub TX
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Oh, it's a slippery slope, alright. A slippery slope into "well, I believe in freedom...except for this ONE thing I am righteous about the government banning for adults".
So you only believe in freedom for adults. Do you hate 17 year olds?
There are legit discussions to be had over where to draw lines. Those are impossible to have when people like you pretend that they're freedom absolutists and everybody who disagrees with them isn't. If you want laws, you want to restrict freedoms. Your shite smells just like their shite; no roses here.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:31 am to DarthRebel
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Oklahoma is kind of an outlier with population density and culture.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s in Okieville we used to joke that weed was our county's cash crop.
good times
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