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re: Republicans need to rethink abortion
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:38 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:38 pm to imjustafatkid
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Situations where the decision is "one of you will die and you have to pick one" have never been a part of the abortion discussion.
How often are these decisions black and white? The issue is if doctors have to weigh the relative risk to the mother, while also having to weigh whether that risk is high enough that they won’t be prosecuted under abortion laws.
Example: doctor thinks the mother has a 25% chance of dying or suffering significant harm if the pregnancy goes to full term. Are they going to abort the baby, knowing that a jury may have a different definition of acceptable risk than the doctor or the mother do?
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:38 pm to hawkeye007
Banning abortion is an extremist position.
Do it and your party is guaranteed to get slaughtered in the next election.
Do it and your party is guaranteed to get slaughtered in the next election.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:39 pm to imjustafatkid
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So...nothing changes? Not sure what your point is here. Abortion certainly isn't going to go away by voting for people who support it.
And by voting for people who oppose it you inadvertently make sure that those who support it will attain and retain power, thus losing your single button issue in the long run anyway.
It's not a battle that you're going to win
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:40 pm to SixthAndBarone
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(2) government shouldn't have a say in abortion
A true conservative wants less government, so why are you fighting for a government that tells you that you cannot have an abortion?
Government's most basic responsibility is the protection of human life. Any conservative who disagrees is not a conservative, but is a demagoguing idiot.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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his.
Democrats aren't the only ones who like a good slippery slope.
Murder is already against the law, try again.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:41 pm to Powerman
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And by voting for people who oppose it you inadvertently make sure that those who support it will attain and retain power,
We have to support abortion to oppose it. You people are clowns.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:41 pm to SixthAndBarone
True conservatives believe the constitution is the law of the land.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:41 pm to SixthAndBarone
No.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:42 pm to hawkeye007
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Hell the only religion the GOP has is abortion....
If they'd drop it, they'd clean house most elections.
But, I suppose Democrats are at least still stupid enough to keep gun control as their religion.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:42 pm to SixthAndBarone
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abortion stance
I'd rather lose elections and not be an accessory to murder.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:43 pm to Crowknowsbest
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How often are these decisions black and white? The issue is if doctors have to weigh the relative risk to the mother, while also having to weigh whether that risk is high enough that they won’t be prosecuted under abortion laws.
Example: doctor thinks the mother has a 25% chance of dying or suffering significant harm if the pregnancy goes to full term. Are they going to abort the baby, knowing that a jury may have a different definition of acceptable risk than the doctor or the mother do?
If you want abortion, vote for Joe Biden.
Yall have that option, you have a choice, dont vote for the republican, problem solved.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:43 pm to dgnx6
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Murder is already against the law
And here, I thought "abortion murders babies."
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:44 pm to squid_hunt
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We have to support abortion to oppose it. You people are clowns.
Not what I said at all
You're never going to outlaw abortion. Placing more restrictions at the state level ensures that legislation for abortion rights will inevitably be passed at the federal level.
Supporting hard core pro life republicans is a great way to lose to democrats. So not only will you lose on the long battle of abortion, you'll also lose on every other issue.
If you don't like abortion it's probably best to encourage people not to have them.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:44 pm to SixthAndBarone
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1) abortion is a state right (2) government shouldn't have a say in abortion
If it is a state issue, isn’t that still giving government a say? Just a more local government?
I’m not arguing one way or another, I’m just trying to understand why people support this as a state issue and not a federal issue. What’s the distinction?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:44 pm to UnclePat76
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Banning abortion is fine but don’t complain when your taxes go up.
Plot twist: The wefare state is also immoral.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:46 pm to SixthAndBarone
Why do you think that the Dems going back 50 years never codified any national abortion laws when they had much greater majorities in the Congress and had the White House? They are just as scared of it as the media want us to be.
Dobbs was the perfect decision. It knocked the issue back to the states. If you want to kill your baby, go have unbridled monkey sex in a blue state. Otherwise, use a condom.
Dobbs was the perfect decision. It knocked the issue back to the states. If you want to kill your baby, go have unbridled monkey sex in a blue state. Otherwise, use a condom.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:47 pm to SixthAndBarone
One more time as others have said. All the USSC did was send it to the states. Period. Listen, read, understand
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:47 pm to Powerman
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Supporting hard core pro life republicans is a great way to lose to democrats.
In the interest of self preservation, I prefer my politicians to have a strong sense of the value of human life. Call me crazy, but I think that's called conservatism. It used to be called classical liberalism.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:48 pm to MAROON
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The consequence of banning abortion is that millions of human beings get to live and have chance to contribute to society.
You think most of the kids in the ghetto are going to make anything of themselves?
Are YOU going to pay for those kids AND take care of them??
:)
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:49 pm to TeaParty
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One more time as others have said. All the USSC did was send it to the states. Period. Listen, read, understand
I know. So why are republicans listing “pro life” on their campaigns? Shut the hell up about abortion in a campaign. Pro life will lose in the future. Period.
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