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Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:20 pm to roadGator
IDK man, nobody has really tried to 1) list the places or 2) say the actual reason military bases have these policies in place (and probably have for some time, although someone tried to blame Biden 
).
I’m not saying bases should be gun free zones or that “good guys with guns everywhere” are the solution. Gun violence/mental health is a complicated problem in this country w no clear & obvious fix.
). I’m not saying bases should be gun free zones or that “good guys with guns everywhere” are the solution. Gun violence/mental health is a complicated problem in this country w no clear & obvious fix.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:22 pm to Wolfhound45
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Early reports on X (to be taken with a huge grain of salt) are five dead.
So it's not a mass casualty event then? Not that 5 dead isn't a sad and horrible situation but the media's use of that term to stir up emotions is really sickening.
4 people can get killed by a crazy person in Tennessee and its just 4 dead. Let 5 get shot and die at a Military Base where emotions can be stirred and the headlines scream MASS CASUALTY.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:22 pm to mwade91383
fascinating conversation on who can and cannot have a gun on base.
Anyone with details on the mass shooting?
Anyone with details on the mass shooting?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:23 pm to mwade91383
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mwade91383
just STFU
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:25 pm to mwade91383
You think everyone is walking around strapped like Rambo, you stupid frick?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:29 pm to mwade91383
Hush. Damn.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:30 pm to mwade91383
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IDK man, nobody has really tried to 1) list the places or 2) say the actual reason military bases have these policies in place (and probably have for some time).
Yes we have. It's the same reason you keep ignoring the same answers.
This is from 2016
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The Pentagon recently released detailed guidance that allows U.S. military personnel to carry privately owned, concealed firearms on base, a move that the Army's service chief argued against publicly.
"Arming and the Use of Force," a Nov. 18 Defense Department directive approved by Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Work, lays out the policy and standards that allow DoD personnel to carry firearms and employ deadly force while performing official duties.
Oh look, political hacks getting in the way...
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Lawmakers have questioned military leaders about the policy, arguing that allowing service members to be armed might have prevented attacks such as the July 16, 2015, shootings at two military facilities in Chattanooga, Tennessee, in which four Marines and a sailor were shot and killed. The gunman, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, was killed by police in a gunfight.
But Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley has argued against reversing the DoD policy that prohibits service members from carrying concealed weapons on post.
Testifying at an April 14 congressional hearing, Milley cited the Nov. 5, 2009, mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, in which 13 people were killed and 42 others were injured. The day of the shooting, Nidal Hasan, then an Army major and psychiatrist, entered the Fort Hood deployment center carrying two pistols, jumped on a desk and shouted "Allahu Akbar!" -- Arabic for "God is great" -- then opened fire.
And Milley's asinine take
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Milley defended the short time it took for law enforcement to secure the scene and said he is not convinced that allowing soldiers to carry privately owned weapons would have stopped Hasan.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:34 pm to mwade91383
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mwade91383
Low IQ TDS moron that has to be the center of attention with stupid questions, then triples down when it doesn't get the answers it wants.
I wish people on this board would ignore these idiots.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:39 pm to mwade91383
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IDK man, nobody has really tried to 1) list the places or 2) say the actual reason military bases have these policies in place (and probably have for some time, although someone tried to blame Biden
Awe. Poor little feller. No one bit on your stupid gotcha attempts?
You’ll be ok.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:46 pm to mwade91383
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There are virtually no places in the country that have more “good guys with a gun” than US military bases.
You seriously think everyone is waking around on base with an M-4 and a Glock?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:49 pm to CleverUserName
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You seriously think everyone is waking around on base with an M-4 and a Glock?
Yes....and a rocket launcher.....
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:50 pm to FGCU Gator
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A commissioned officer
Obviously not a Marine Officer…..
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:52 pm to mwade91383
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There are virtually no places in the country that have more “good guys with a gun” than US military bases.
I’m on Barksdale AFB all the time seeing customers. Other than the personnel at the gates, you rarely see firearms anywhere else on base. Now I’m sure they can mobilize an armed response fairly quickly but no one is walking around strapped.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:01 pm to Kingshakabooboo
Still nothing on the shooter?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Still nothing on the shooter?
Just "one in custody"... longer it plays out, well you know the "rule"...
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:25 pm to The Maj
According to the Daily Mail, it HAS been confirmed that the shooter IS an active-duty male soldier.
Yes, not huge surprise, but a little piece of the puzzle.
'The shooter's identity has not been released, but a law enforcement official confirmed to CNN that the gunman was a soldier.'
Yes, not huge surprise, but a little piece of the puzzle.
'The shooter's identity has not been released, but a law enforcement official confirmed to CNN that the gunman was a soldier.'
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:27 pm to mwade91383
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Why are those policies in place?
Well, if they are in place to prevent shootings, this would be the dumbest time possible to bring them up, now wouldn't it?
By contrast, Israeli citizens in the reserve or active army routinely carry their weapons with them wherever they go. Yes, including in public when they are off duty.
And those weapons are (gasp) military assault rifles.
And they have armed guards at at schools. And they'e had fewer than 10 school shootings since 1974, and mass shootings are very rare, and if you were to remove the "Palestinian" terrorists from that equation the number of mass shootings approaches zero.
So what is your point?
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:31 pm to mwade91383
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Why do these strict policies exist on bases?
AI says, "This policy is in place primarily for safety and security reasons, aiming to minimize the risk of accidental or unauthorized use of weapons on base."
I would imagine theft is another motivation.
Now.
So what?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:59 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Still nothing on the shooter?
ONE suspect is in custody, being described as a "male soldier" by ABC
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