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re: Report critical of University of Alabama for focusing on recruiting wealthy white students
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:09 am to anc
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:09 am to anc
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Alabama is not the only school with this recruiting strategy. LSU is doing the same.
LSU isn't doing it at the expense of Louisiana students though.
You have to be careful in saying that.
What do the raw data say about the following:
- Absolute # of Alabama residents in a class in 2002 compared to 2019?
- Absolute # of African-American Alabama residents in a class in 2002 compared to 2019?
I suspect those numbers look pretty similar and perhaps even have 2019 numbers a little higher. Alabama's class size has grown dramatically while the number of out-of-state students has simultaneously exploded.
The university administration's counter-argument would be that it has simply expanded the average class size with extra out-of-state students to subsidize the education for in-state students. The number of in-state students hasn't changed much, so what they're effectively doing is levering their newfound brand and resources to make it cheaper for a similar portion of Alabama residents.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:17 am to AbuTheMonkey
They recruit here offering in state rates to many good students that cant get into Florida.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:21 am to anc
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LSU isn't doing it at the expense of Louisiana students though.
How is that?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:29 am to AbuTheMonkey
Was going to post this, thanks for the time saver.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:32 am to anc
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Public research universities were founded to provide upward mobility for high-achieving state residents and designated the unique responsibility of preparing the future professional, business and civic leaders of the state."
So are they not accepting high achieving state residents?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:35 am to mule74
Hell LSU did it from 2001 though 2009. Then LA politics got involved, TOPS became a welfare program as opposed to a reward for high achieving in state students, and the university became fine with mediocre performance from their number one publicity generator (sports) all because optics.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:46 am to Zach
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There is a correlation between IQ and wealth. Rich kids have higher IQs than poor kids because they get their genes from a doctor instead of a clerk at Dollar Store.
Colleges want smart kids. So, that means rich white kids. Colleges also get rated by the number of national merit scholars enrolled. Alabama has a limited number of those, so the out-of-state recruiting is intense for those elite students.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:50 am to Mikey P
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at least the boosters don't have to give them brand new Challengers/Chargers
and giving their parents foreclosed homes in Alabaster, AL
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:52 am to anc
So, people mad that the University of Alabama is smart and had managed to increase the number of out of state students to the point of bringing in $500 million more tuition dollars, while not reducing the number of instate students?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:00 am to anc
How many kids from St Tammany Parish attend college in Mississippi and Alabama? Short answer...a lot
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:19 am to anc
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University of Alabama for focusing on recruiting wealthy white students
In other news the NAACP board or directors recruits black only members.
Breaking at 5
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:25 am to anc
Alabama has an aggressive out of state scholarship program.
LINK
Basics: With a 3.5 GPA minimum and...
Act 27- $6,000/yr
Act 28- $8,000/yr
Act 29- $15,000/yr
Act 30-31- $20,000/yr
Act 32-36- $26,000/yr
They are getting a ton of out of state kids with good scores because the scholarships can close the gap considerably when comparing costs for staying home and attending an in state school.
On top of that, around 60% of the campus is brand new.
I can't stand them, but they are knocking it out of the park with their approach.
LINK
Basics: With a 3.5 GPA minimum and...
Act 27- $6,000/yr
Act 28- $8,000/yr
Act 29- $15,000/yr
Act 30-31- $20,000/yr
Act 32-36- $26,000/yr
They are getting a ton of out of state kids with good scores because the scholarships can close the gap considerably when comparing costs for staying home and attending an in state school.
On top of that, around 60% of the campus is brand new.
I can't stand them, but they are knocking it out of the park with their approach.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:26 am to narddogg81
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So, people mad that the University of Alabama is smart and had managed to increase the number of out of state students to the point of bringing in $500 million more tuition dollars, while not reducing the number of instate students?
It lifts all boats
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:35 am to anc
Now I know why they recruit football players so well.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to anc
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In-state recruiting "was dwarfed by the 3,957 out-of-state recruiting visits,
Yep, Saban's fault
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:39 am to anc
Shocking that schools want money.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:42 am to memphisplaya
I heard an interview with the University of Alabama President (Don't remember which one)
And he said they changed focus when they saw children of Bama alumni who were high achievers leaving the State to attend expensive private schools for academic reasons.
So they started boosting academics in their honors college to accommodate those kids and draw other high achievers (wealthy) kids to the State.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
And he said they changed focus when they saw children of Bama alumni who were high achievers leaving the State to attend expensive private schools for academic reasons.
So they started boosting academics in their honors college to accommodate those kids and draw other high achievers (wealthy) kids to the State.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:06 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Basics: With a 3.5 GPA minimum and... Act 27- $6,000/yr Act 28- $8,000/yr Act 29- $15,000/yr Act 30-31- $20,000/yr Act 32-36- $26,000/yr
This right here is huge. I have had 5 generations of my family graduate from Alabama. In 1999 coming from a very good boys school in Memphis with a 3.4 and a 32 on the ACT, Alabama offered me a $1000/year. I was offered enough scholarship to go to Ole Miss with pretty much only buying books and paying for room/board. Now there are multiple kids from my high school getting great scholarships and attending Alabama
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:10 pm to anc
All colleges should only accept black male and female, all female, and all non-white male applicants from now on.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:40 pm to 14&Counting
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Bama is raising their game. Get the rich kids in from Texas, Cali, and New Jersey who can pay full freight.
Helps subsidize the dumb athletes
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