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re: Reminder: Hussein Soetoro sent Soleimani $1.7 BILLION in taxpayer money

Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:06 pm to
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So, in short, we owed them the money. We signed documents to pay them the money. Legally we were obligated to pay them the money. Bush made the initial down payment. Obama paid the balance. It’s OK to read. Even if it’s something you don’t like.
Perish the thought.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:08 pm to
HeroHank once again supporting the enemies of America. At least he’s consistent.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:10 pm to
I gotta go but I’ll be back later with a dank meme of trump as a centaur on fire waving Excalibur in front of old glory and shouting 52 TARGETS!

I’ll get all the LOLs and upvotes.
Stand by
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:11 pm to
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HeroHank once again supporting the enemies of America. At least he’s consistent.


Yup. Hes also a consistent liar but at least hes consistent
Posted by Tigers0891
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:12 pm to
That deal was done with previous people. They acted up and took hostages. Deal null and void. Obama easily could have been a bitch and sent them 400 million of oil equipment or food relief rather than cash. Still bullshite but better than giving the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism cash money
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:14 pm to
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Hes also a consistent liar but at least hes consistent
You repeat this daily. In response, often I ask you to link even one instance in which I have made an affirmative misrepresentation of ANY fact. Yet you never do so. Odd.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:15 pm to
I need a mathematician to show us the interest on 400 mil going to 1.3 bil.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Brazos
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:17 pm to
“If you are afraid of the truth then you are part of the problem “ fits liberals to a T.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:22 pm to
you voted for Barry twice. Edited your post once you realized what you did

I dont need to go down the list of lies Liberal Hank
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:30 pm to
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you voted for Barry twice. Edited your post once you realized what you did
Both false.

Par for your course.
Posted by MikeD
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:34 pm to
For all future contracts, the US should include a clause that states if you hold our citizens hostage, contract is null and void.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:37 pm to
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You think we were keeping that money in a special account?

yes as a matter of fact the money was kept in a special account. An interest bearing account at that


What bank was holding that and giving that sort of simple interest rate?
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:45 pm to
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What bank was holding that and giving that sort of simple interest rate?
The Brookings Institute provides a pretty good, objective explanation of the entire series of transactions.
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The 1979 MoU stipulated that the unexpended funds would be placed in an interest-bearing account. As it turns out, these funds were not based in such an account—no U.S. administration implemented that requirement. The reasons for this are not clear. Former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman, who testified on this issue before the Senate, noted that the United States “does not let [FMS accounts] accrue interest.”

Still, most if not all other claims before the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal have incorporated compensation for accrued interest. This is consistent with the position adopted by the Treasury Department at the outset of the 1979 assets freeze, although in nearly every case the amount of the interest to be paid has been subject to some haggling between Washington and Tehran.

Obama administration officials maintain that a Tribunal decision may have resulted in a much larger judgment on the issue of accrued interest.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:46 pm to
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Both false.


Of course
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:48 pm to
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That deal was done with previous people. They acted up and took hostages. Deal null and void.


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Later that year, after Iran’s seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and the detention of the American diplomats, the Carter administration froze all Iranian assets in the United States. The standoff was resolved nearly 15 months later, with an agreement that freed the hostages and established the Iran-U.S. Claims Tribunal to resolve the labyrinth of financial and commercial disputes that had emerged.


That would have been year two of the Reagan administration for those of you with reading and history challenges.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:53 pm to
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Obama administration officials maintain that a Tribunal decision may have resulted in a much larger judgment on the issue of accrued interest.


Well no shite.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Did Iran compensate the hostages for the time they were held captive?
The victims were compensated. Per the Brookings Institute:
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Several members of Congress have questioned whether the $400 million in the FMS Trust Fund was in fact available to return to Tehran, noting that the 2000 Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which was signed into law by President Clinton, required these funds be used to pay judgments against Iran. However, Congress actually paid these victims using an appropriated $400 million. As State Department official Grosh explained, “[the Act] provides that the United States shall be fully subrogated to the extent of the payment… What that means is those claims then become the U.S. government claims.” However, as described in a 2008 Congressional Research Service Report, the Act also “provided that the United States ‘shall pursue’ these subrogated rights as claims or offsets to any claims or awards that Iran may have against the United States.”
In other words, the US government compensated them in exchange for subrogation of their rights to recover against Iran, meaning essentially that the victims got cash and assigned their causes of action to the federal government to either pursue or not pursue at its sole discretion.

The federal government waived its subrogated rights as to those claims as part of the overall settlement with Iran.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:02 pm to
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I need a mathematician to show us the interest on 400 mil going to 1.3 bil.
Compounded annually, it works out to about 10% per annum. A bit high by today’s standards, and low for the 1970s and 1980s.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:06 pm to
So, it was ultimately taxpayer dollars.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:08 pm to
A lot high by today’s standards
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