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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:48 am to 10thyrsr
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:48 am to 10thyrsr
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Thank you for the insight. How do we rationalize the transition from many gods to a singular God today?
No problem.
Modern Jews and Christians might outwardly say that they believe in one God, but what is going on is they believe in a pantheon of deities, but that one deity created all the other deities and those created deities are subordinate to the creator. The creator deity they call “God” with a capital G, and all the other deities they use other terms such as angels or demons or powers or principalities or archons.
Go to a Catholic mass. The priest is liable to mention all those angels, demons, powers, principalities, and rulers who live in the skies and heavens. He just doesn’t call them gods. The title “God” is an honorific title reserved for the one they worship. All the other imaginary divine invisible spirits of the heavens, the earth, or under the earth (all the ones the Israelites were forbidden to make images of in exodus 20) are demoted from “gods” to a less glorious term. In Hebrew all these deities, including Yahweh (the one they worshipped after El Elyon the high god and father of Yahweh) were called “elohim” which is a plural word that was applied to invisible spirits. Psalms 82 and 89 in your English Bible likely preserves the distinction between “God” and “gods”. The Greek speaking Christians didn’t like calling the lesser gods the same word used for the particular god they worshipped, so they gave them names the pagans already used of their deities.
The average Christian probably doesn’t realize any of this. Read Ephesians 6:12 and 1 Cor 2. Christians thought that the lesser deities were very powerful, perhaps nearly as powerful as their deity they worshipped, but that “God’s” secret plan to get those deities to kill the “monogenes” (one of a kind, often translated as only-begotten) would defeat them when the monogenes would be resurrected and exalted (and earning the name “Jesus” after his death and resurrection).
Lots of ignorant Christians will surely retort “one” if you ask them how many gods there are. They will short circuit their neurons or make up some kind of excuse when they read psalm 82 - saying “those gods were just human authorities”… bullshite
Then take them to Psalm 89, and ask were those gods just people who lived in the skies?
The singular God thing really is indefensible. There is no monotheism contained with the Bible or Christian thought.
There were some monotheistic cults before Judaism and Christianity… one was the cult of Akhenaten (who worshipped the “one true God” called “Aten” in Egypt). Another was early versions of Persian Zoroastrianism before they incorporated Ahriman Ha Satan as the evil nemesis of Ahura Mazda. Some sects of Israelite religions and Christianity adopted the evil nemesis of Zoroastrianism, dropped “Ahriman” from the name, and simply called him “Satan”. Some Christians centuries later even invented the idea that “Satan” was the snake in the garden of Eden in Genesis 2-3.
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I'd be interested in your perspective from a historical as well as faith if you are up for it.
I think you just got the historical perspective. I don’t have faith in a religious sense.
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I think it is important to the overall discussion of how revealing alien life would impact Christian belief.
I don’t think it would impact it at all. Think about it. The Bible says the earth is a flat disk supported by pillars driven into a water abyss. There is a solid glasslike/metal-like dome above the earth, which also sits on giant pillars, and this dome holds up a heavenly ocean of water. The sun and moon and stars sit inside this firmament and are simply little lights, and light itself doesn’t even come from the sun (because in Genesis 1, light and day were made before the sun was made). We absolutely know there could never have been a global flood and we know positively there never was a global flood. We know the whole earth isn’t 6000 years old and that all people didn’t descend from 2 people (fictive Adam and Eve) or from 3 men (Shem, Ham, Japeth) from archaeological and genetic evidence. We even know the source texts the biblical authors used to compile and write their own versions of more ancient stories. Yet… Christians believe it is the divine word of an almighty deity… a deity who loses battles to Canaanite because they have iron chariots… a deity who has to have his son killed to defeat the other very powerful divine beings. Christians, and all religious believers for that matter, don’t care about reality one tiny bit. They are going to believe what they believe because they really really want to believe it. Some kind of way they can trick their brains - hypnotizing themselves - into believing things that are demonstrably false. Revealing of alien life won’t change anything about their beliefs.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:51 am to AUveritas
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To be fair, what we now know as Judaism didn't begin as monotheist.
I agree. Foo does not.
That wording was intentional
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:14 am to AlterEd
The new narrative to make way for project blue beam?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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I agree. Foo does not.
I mean, it's not an opinion; it's historical fact.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:27 am to Ailsa
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The new narrative to make way for project blue beam?
Disclosure Day won't follow the blue beam narrative. Supposedly anyways. The big reveal in this movie is supposedly that the aliens have always been here and are fully integrated into our society through a type of psychic influence and subtle pressure on our governments. The part where Emily Blunt's character broadcasts the clicks on air is supposed to be "the truth" that triggers worldwide disclosure and chaos ensues.
So no invasion. Just profound awakening and humanity shocked to its core.
I look forward to seeing it. It might not be too far off the truth of the matter.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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That wording was intentional
He will make up some kind of cockamamie excuse and let us all know what that is and tell you to repent.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:29 am to Ailsa
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The new narrative to make way for project blue beam?
What is new about it?
The thought they have coexisted with us on Earth has been discussed for as long as I can remember.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:30 am to Willie Stroker
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The thought they have coexisted with us on Earth has been discussed for as long as I can remember.
For at least 6,000 years.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:34 am to Willie Stroker
Lizzid people? Grays? Tall whites? Annunaki? Which ones?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:35 am to AlterEd
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I look forward to seeing it. It might not be too far off the truth of the matter.
I believe it will be a massive psychological tool to instill fear and control the public.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:37 am to wareaglepete
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Annunaki?
This is the direction this is going for better or worse. This is why everyone supposedly "in the know" is talking about the Book of Enoch suddenly. Whether people want to believe it or not, that is exactly where this is all headed.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:41 am to Ailsa
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I believe it will be a massive psychological tool to instill fear and control the public
Maybe. Maybe not. It's kind of interesting looking at the reaction of Christians to this information. On the one hand they'll tell you that the Bible is the truth and then on the other they'll deny certain aspects of it that challenge their worldview.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:43 am to AlterEd
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Maybe. Maybe not
Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:46 am to Squirrelmeister
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We absolutely know there could never have been a global flood and we know positively there never was a global flood.
This is only true in the sense that there was likely never a time when every bit of land was covered by water, but the idea of a single event flooding the entire earth in parts where most people lived? Yeah, that happened. And it happened 12,000 years ago. Which is why like 200 origin "myths" from around the world record the event.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:03 pm to Squirrelmeister
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All the other imaginary divine invisible spirits of the heavens, the earth, or under the earth (all the ones the Israelites were forbidden to make images of in exodus 20) are demoted from “gods” to a less glorious term. In Hebrew all these deities, including Yahweh (the one they worshipped after El Elyon the high god and father of Yahweh) were called “elohim” which is a plural word that was applied to invisible spirits. Psalms 82 and 89 in your English Bible likely preserves the distinction between “God” and “gods”. The Greek speaking Christians didn’t like calling the lesser gods the same word used for the particular god they worshipped, so they gave them names the pagans already used of their deities.
I am sure you read this somewhere, making you an expert in your mind on this topic, but this argument is without merit. There are numerous places that use the plural term elohim for individual humans, groups of humans, divine beings, lifeless idols and the singular God Yahweh (and possibly a sprit of a dead person depending on how you choose to understand the ghost of Samuel).
Trying to understand a historical theology from the far past based on your understanding of one word is beyond fallacious. It is akin to me saying that since monarchical systems in the past used terms like "lord" or "your majesty" for the noble class and kings that they must have believed them to be lower g gods.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:07 pm to AUveritas
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I mean, it's not an opinion; it's historical fact.
Look at the words of his I quoted
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The story the Bible tells isn't merely a history, but a purpose. The purpose is for the people to worship the one, true God. The historical narratives are told to reflect true history that was perverted and twisted over time (and relayed by groups like the Sumerians) so that the truth could be known and glory given to God, not some alien beings or angels.
And, remember, there can always be a "God's will" or "The devil" fallback position to explain why we don't have evidence.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:10 pm to AlterEd
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but the idea of a single event flooding the entire earth in parts where most people lived? Yeah, that happened. And it happened 12,000 years ago. Which is why like 200 origin "myths" from around the world record the event.
Ed, the biblical fable is a myth taken from Babylonian myth which itself is derived from Sumerian myth. The reason why so many people groups had flood myths is because civilizations developed around major rivers and those rivers sometimes flooded. There’s no evidence of a singular event, for instance, where the Nile, Euphrates, Tigris, and Indus rivers flooded simultaneously.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And, remember, there can always be a "God's will" or "The devil" fallback position to explain why we don't have evidence.
Or to explain how it was the Sumerians who twisted the stories they told first.
It's frickin absurd.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:20 pm to Squirrelmeister
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There’s no evidence of a singular event, for instance, where the Nile, Euphrates, Tigris, and Indus rivers flooded simultaneously.
There is a growing number of people who disagree with this and I tend to fall in the camp that the region of North Africa and Mesopotamia were inundated by tsunamis. I believe the younger dryas impact hypothesis fits evidence we see in recorded myths not just from this region, but around the entire world. A single, global, catastrophic event. Keep in mind that you'll be talking about trying to find evidence of a flood that happened along the rivers you named 6,000 years before writing began and are prone to yearly flooding anyways. The point being that you aren't going to see the evidence of this either on the ground or eyewitness testimony. The only evidence will be what is passed down from 6,000 years of oral tradition. And exactly that is found all over the globe.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:30 pm to AlterEd
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Keep in mind that you'll be talking about trying to find evidence of a flood that happened along the rivers you named 6,000 years before writing began and are prone to yearly flooding anyways. The point being that you aren't going to see the evidence of this either on the ground or eyewitness testimony.
Geologically speaking, there are an abundance of markers in the geologic record of a location that would indicate flooding of various severity. You would be looking for similar indicators or markers in locations separated by great distances that occurred in roughly the same time span.
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