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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:04 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:04 pm to AlterEd
The odds are much much greater that these are just natural phenomenon that we cannot explain yet
And if not it is much more likely there are just humans in the future creating these phenomenons
We are closer to bacteria than to any life form that has figured out how to traverse the vastness of space, so either we are insignificant beyond any measure to any life form that could do that, or we should be very afraid that we will get stepped on like a bug and scraped off of a shoe not because they cared about us, but because they just didn’t notice us and we were of no consequence
And if not it is much more likely there are just humans in the future creating these phenomenons
We are closer to bacteria than to any life form that has figured out how to traverse the vastness of space, so either we are insignificant beyond any measure to any life form that could do that, or we should be very afraid that we will get stepped on like a bug and scraped off of a shoe not because they cared about us, but because they just didn’t notice us and we were of no consequence
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:05 pm to ronricks
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For me personally. I don’t care what others think. Certainly not enough to care to call potential aliens ‘angels’, ‘demons’ ‘spirits’ ‘satan’ etc.
You realize that's a pretty fringe opinion among Christians. And, your comment was about ALL religions.
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This thread is full of wishcasting
That's what I said.
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leans heavily on Christian posters trying to rationalize their beliefs
...and the atheists defacto stating that it would end Christianity/religion, etc.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:05 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:07 pm to moneyg
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and the atheists
What are the agnostic posters saying?
See how fun this can be?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 4:20 pm to ronricks
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What are the agnostic posters saying?
I assume they would say this would change nothing about their agnostic position. But, feel free to disagree.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:19 pm to AlterEd
The Sumerian Tablet the Bible Couldn't Hide - It Describes What the Garden of Eden Really Was
This is a good video, imo, that plays on the theme of this thread. Here we have an analysis of a Sumerian tablet nearly 2,000 years older than the Biblical Genesis that describes in detail what the Garden of Eden actually was. It places it's location in Southern Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates, explains that the first humans were there, and that it was guarded by "cherubs" with weapons that flashed like fire. Unmistakably the same story. But quite different. You see, the biblical account came nearly 2,000 years later. So a lot of the details were either forgotten or deliberately glossed over by the time Genesis was written.
In any event, this is very interesting stuff, imo. And yeah, if these characters from these stories are confirmed to be behind the modern day UFO/UAP phenomenon, this will have profound impact on how the Bible is viewed.
This is a good video, imo, that plays on the theme of this thread. Here we have an analysis of a Sumerian tablet nearly 2,000 years older than the Biblical Genesis that describes in detail what the Garden of Eden actually was. It places it's location in Southern Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates, explains that the first humans were there, and that it was guarded by "cherubs" with weapons that flashed like fire. Unmistakably the same story. But quite different. You see, the biblical account came nearly 2,000 years later. So a lot of the details were either forgotten or deliberately glossed over by the time Genesis was written.
In any event, this is very interesting stuff, imo. And yeah, if these characters from these stories are confirmed to be behind the modern day UFO/UAP phenomenon, this will have profound impact on how the Bible is viewed.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:25 pm to AlterEd
There is no such Sumerian tablet and I defy you to post a link to an actual academic source that proves there is.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:32 pm to AUveritas
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There is no such Sumerian tablet and I defy you to post a link to an actual academic source that proves there is.
Considering this was posted 6 minutes after I linked the video and the video is about 25 minutes long, it's clear you didn't even attempt to watch the video. If you had you would have realized that the video creator links you by QR code to the source material used in the production of the video including the relevant tablets and translations.
Enjoy.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:34 pm to AlterEd
So, you can't provide one?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:37 pm to AUveritas
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So, you can't provide one?
I told you where to find it. Within the video itself. I'm not going to argue with you over something that was already provided within the very frickin video you're questioning. That is absurd and I can find much better use of my time. Furthermore, I don't give a frick how you feel about it.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:42 pm to AlterEd
We both know there's not one or you'd be happy to provide it and prove I'm wrong. Just wish you had the integrity to admit it.
Some unsolicited advice: Watching YouTube videos that confirm what you already believe isn't real research. YouTube is also not a trustworthy source, in and of itself.
Some unsolicited advice: Watching YouTube videos that confirm what you already believe isn't real research. YouTube is also not a trustworthy source, in and of itself.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:23 pm to AlterEd
MIT scientist is saying that the mathematics would indicate that the universe is teeming with life. Most of it we cannot perceive.
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MIT scientist says aliens are likely all around us! We just can't see them...
Donald Hoffman says the mathematics indicates embodied consciousness like ours is a rare exception in the universe.
The universe should be teeming with intelligence more advanced than humans, operating without traditional bodies.
Hoffman calls our human form one of the cheapest, most restrictive "virtual reality headsets" in existence.
The default state of consciousness, according to the math, has no body at all.
"Embodiment is very, very small."
"The universe would be teeming with life that is more advanced than humans and also doesn't have traditional bodies."
"Our particular kind of view of the world, the kind of, I'll call it a headset, the virtual reality headset that we're using for our embodiment, is one of the more trivial kinds of headsets."
"Our headset is one of the cheapest, most restrictive possible."
"There are all sorts of variations that are far more interesting and complicated than what we've got."
"Embodiment is the exception, not the rule."
Full episode with Donald Hoffman out now
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:27 am to wareaglepete
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Anyone that believes our math is the be all end all explanation to our universe is extremely close minded and shows once again the flawed hubris of man.
Anyone who disregards what we know because we don't know everything is a damn fool and an idiot, and is likely committing the logical fallacy of Science of the Gaps.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 8:30 am
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:34 am to AlterEd
quote:Seems like pure speculation on his part.
MIT scientist is saying that the mathematics would indicate that the universe is teeming with life. Most of it we cannot perceive.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:37 am to AlterEd
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That user is wrong about the math. The math shows it to be a near certainty.
No, I'm correct.
That's what people used to think, like the Drake equation and such.
But that was formulated in 1961.
We know so much more about DNA and amino acids now and how long the odds are for life to generate from non-life for even the most basic living cells (1 x 10 to the 40,000)—those numbers are actually higher than the number of viable environments theorized in the equations like the Drake equation.
Now you can say, "Well, that's just based on what WE know...there could be life forms that are totally different than what we know about and it could be easier for life to start from non-life for those organisms."
Sure. But that's not "a near certainty," it's just a remote possibility. Anybody who claims certainty or anything like it based on that premise is going Science of the Gaps.
Besides, I thought you didn't believe in little green men from outer space. I thought you were certain that the beings that have been proven beyond any shadow of any reasonable doubt have always lived on this planet with us.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:49 am to wackatimesthree
Says I’m right then says anyone claiming certainty is wrong. Nice argument. Constant contradictions.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:01 am to AlterEd
So this threads title never happened? This thread devolved into a religious war with the same holier than thou art idjets.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:03 am to AlterEd
quote:As I pointed out earlier in this thread, this interpretation assumes several things, most of which is that there is no revelation from God, and that chronology determines truth.
The Sumerian Tablet the Bible Couldn't Hide - It Describes What the Garden of Eden Really Was
This is a good video, imo, that plays on the theme of this thread. Here we have an analysis of a Sumerian tablet nearly 2,000 years older than the Biblical Genesis that describes in detail what the Garden of Eden actually was. It places it's location in Southern Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates, explains that the first humans were there, and that it was guarded by "cherubs" with weapons that flashed like fire. Unmistakably the same story. But quite different. You see, the biblical account came nearly 2,000 years later. So a lot of the details were either forgotten or deliberately glossed over by the time Genesis was written.
The differences in the stories are just as important as the similarities, but people like you and that guy in the video you posted are glossing over those differences and just highlight similarities in order to support what I believe is a flawed hypothesis.
In addition, even if there was an echo of truth in the earlier stories, you and the guy in the video assume those are more true because they are older than the preserved written manuscripts of the Bible we have.
The story the Bible tells isn't merely a history, but a purpose. The purpose is for the people to worship the one, true God. The historical narratives are told to reflect true history that was perverted and twisted over time (and relayed by groups like the Sumerians) so that the truth could be known and glory given to God, not some alien beings or angels.
quote:The existence of alien life that is assumed to be talked about by the Sumerians doesn’t change anything.
In any event, this is very interesting stuff, imo. And yeah, if these characters from these stories are confirmed to be behind the modern day UFO/UAP phenomenon, this will have profound impact on how the Bible is viewed.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:06 am to FooManChoo
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The story the Bible tells isn't merely a history, but a purpose. The purpose is for the people to worship the one, true God. The historical narratives are told to reflect true history that was perverted and twisted over time (and relayed by groups like the Sumerians) so that the truth could be known and glory given to God, not some alien beings or angels.
Why does monotheistic Judaism not appear in any records for thousands of years after Sumer? We have evidence of hundreds of other religions in the region over that time period, but no references for monotheistic Judaism.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why does monotheistic Judaism not appear in any records for thousands of years after Sumer? We have evidence of hundreds of other religions in the region over that time period, but no references for monotheistic Judaism.
To be fair, what we now know as Judaism didn't begin as monotheist. Even in the Old Testament, there are references to a pantheon of gods, often called the Divine Council. El and Yahweh were 2 different gods and eventually merged into 1 during the Babylonian exile. Originally, as described in Deuteronomy 32:8-9, El is the head god and Yahweh (a lower god) was given his portion of the earth to rule over (Israel). Psalms 82 also describes this divine council. This pantheon was eventually reordered so that Yahweh/El became the chief god and, ultimately, the only god.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 9:32 am
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