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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:30 pm to Crimson K
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:30 pm to Crimson K
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this argument is without merit. There are numerous places that use the plural term elohim for individual humans, groups of humans
False, with one exception…
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a sprit of a dead person… the ghost of Samuel
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I am sure you read this somewhere, making you an expert in your mind on this topic
Pretty much. Relative to some legit scholars I haven’t scratched the surface, but relative to the folks on this site, I have more expertise than most.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:32 pm to AlterEd
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The point being that you aren't going to see the evidence of this either on the ground or eyewitness testimony. The only evidence will be what is passed down from 6,000 years of oral tradition. And exactly that is found all over the globe.
We know the biblical myth is taken from a tale of the flood of Shuruppak, which was a local event.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:33 pm to 10thyrsr
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Geologically speaking, there are an abundance of markers in the geologic record of a location that would indicate flooding of various severity. You would be looking for similar indicators or markers in locations separated by great distances that occurred in roughly the same time span.
Right. And those have been found. There is of course controversy among the geology community as to whether or not said markers are indicative of tsunami activity or wind erosion patterns. But I feel like when taken with a totality of what is found, it's pretty clear that the areas I mentioned were once inundated and there is an academic coverup of this stuff because it would, once again, force people to face some very uncomfortable truths.
What I was saying is that you aren't going to be able to see the evidence of this just looking at those rivers. You have to broaden your search.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:38 pm to Squirrelmeister
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this argument is without merit. There are numerous places that use the plural term elohim for individual humans, groups of humans
False, with one exception…
I will have to look up the specific verses, but Moses is specifically referred to as elohim in the exodus story as God's representative to pharaoh. Also, in a couple of other places in Torah, the judges for legal cases are called elohim (which is why the disputed Psalm 82 passage is sometimes interpreted that way though I would argue "the heavenly beings" is what should be understood).
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:43 pm to Crimson K
A lot of these old words have multiple meanings. In the case of Elohim it can mean the supreme deity, a pantheon of deities, or human representatives of God. The Pope could be called Elohim and it would be accurate.
Again, this goes for a lot of the old languages which is why there is so much disagreement over what the Sumerians were saying. The thing is, nobody frickin knows what they were saying because a lot of the shite can be read three different ways. Academia picks a story and sticks to it and people take it as the gospel. It's frustrating.
This is why I won't even engage with people who are like, "link me to an academically, peer reviewed paper that supports that translation." There's no point in it. The academics are going to tell you that the people who recorded a time when their kings reigned for 20,000 years at a time before the flood and then on the same document reduce the lifespans down to lifespans that we see today and can verify were writing half myth, half historical document on the same frickin piece of clay.
Again, this goes for a lot of the old languages which is why there is so much disagreement over what the Sumerians were saying. The thing is, nobody frickin knows what they were saying because a lot of the shite can be read three different ways. Academia picks a story and sticks to it and people take it as the gospel. It's frustrating.
This is why I won't even engage with people who are like, "link me to an academically, peer reviewed paper that supports that translation." There's no point in it. The academics are going to tell you that the people who recorded a time when their kings reigned for 20,000 years at a time before the flood and then on the same document reduce the lifespans down to lifespans that we see today and can verify were writing half myth, half historical document on the same frickin piece of clay.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:46 pm to AlterEd
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Maybe. Maybe not. It's kind of interesting looking at the reaction of Christians to this information. On the one hand they'll tell you that the Bible is the truth and then on the other they'll deny certain aspects of it that challenge their worldview.
The "book of Enoch" was written by who?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:47 pm to Ailsa
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The "book of Enoch" was written by who?
Multiple second temple era Jews. Borrowing from Sumerian source literature.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:53 pm to AlterEd
Dude, this was not a real meeting. It's been addressed by real Christians who dug into the matter, unlike the brain-rot conspiracy theorist running around calling themselves Christians.
And, in the first place, anyone claiming to have "new revelation" of what the Bible means, after thousands of years of being understood in plain language, is not telling the truth. Anyone falling for that should feel embarrassed.
And, in the first place, anyone claiming to have "new revelation" of what the Bible means, after thousands of years of being understood in plain language, is not telling the truth. Anyone falling for that should feel embarrassed.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:06 pm to AlterEd
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The "book of Enoch" was written by who?
Multiple second temple era Jews. Borrowing from Sumerian source literature.
The sumerian's worshiped idols.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:06 pm to Metaloctopus
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Dude, this was not a real meeting
Dude, you don't know this. Since this story first hit the air more people have come forward saying they have received similar warnings. Including Tim Burchett just the other day saying that the main holdup on the disclosure the POTUS has ordered are concerns over how the religious community will handle the news.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:07 pm to Squirrelmeister
AI slop.
You're not very good at this anti-Christian thing. You are attacking a thing that doesn't even exist.
Compared to the average Christian, your spiritual maturity is laughable.
You're not very good at this anti-Christian thing. You are attacking a thing that doesn't even exist.
Compared to the average Christian, your spiritual maturity is laughable.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:08 pm to Ailsa
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The sumerian's worshiped idols.
So you say. They described them as living Gods that walked among them. So they would disagree. Also, you asked, I answered.
As I said, for better or worse, and whether people believe it or not, that is where this is headed.
Also, they were the source for many of the OT stories. So you could just as easily say that the Jews who wrote the Bible were worshipping those same idols. Not a ringing endorsement for Christianity.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:09 pm to AlterEd
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the disclosure the POTUS has ordered are concerns over how the religious community will handle the news.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:14 pm to AlterEd
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So you could just as easily say that the Jews who wrote the Bible were worshipping those same idols.
Not all jewish people did the abominable things that the bible recorded. Jesus was a jew as were his apostles and disciples.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:17 pm to Ailsa
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Not all jewish people did the abominable things that the bible recorded. Jesus was a jew as were his apostles and disciples
That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm saying is that the stories that the OT are based on are copied over from older sources. So if you're saying that the Sumerians were worshipping idols, so were the Jews who told the same stories.
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Jesus was a jew as were his apostles and disciples
And Abraham, who founded Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, came from Sumer.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:20 pm to AlterEd
Its been a month.... where are these UFOs and Revelations.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:20 pm to AlterEd
I do know this. these people lying about this meeting are grifters looking for attention. Mike Winger, among others, have exposed these people, but anyone with the slightest discernment should have known already this was BS
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:23 pm to Metaloctopus
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I do know this
No you don't.
Folks can listen to Burchett say it himself. He is saying he has heard it directly from the White House that people from the alphabet agencies are blocking the release of stuff based on religious concerns. Which is precisely what this thread is about.
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Judaism as an organized religion didn't begin to exist until Abraham, and nothing was written down until Moses, hundreds of years later.
Why does monotheistic Judaism not appear in any records for thousands of years after Sumer? We have evidence of hundreds of other religions in the region over that time period, but no references for monotheistic Judaism.
That isn't a problem for Christians (or Jews, either), as we don't believe the truth is based on chronology of the organized religions or the archeological evidence of them, but on the revelation of God.
As I've said before, if the Bible is true (it is), then what we see in history is what we should see in history, namely that there was no "Judaism" or organized religion to worship the one God (Yahweh), but that the truth about God was passed down from generation to generation, with that truth being twisted and perverted over time, and the acts and attributes of God were then attributed to other gods before God came to Abraham to reform the understanding and worship.
I liken it to the Protestant Reformation, when talking about church history with Catholics. They are fond of saying that Protestants are upstarts that have no historical pedigree because they came around 1500 years after Jesus. Their argument is that the chronology doesn't fit, so Protestants were novel. Protestants, on the other hand, point back to the Reformers, who believed they were not creating something new, but reforming the church back to the apostles by going back to the source of truth (the Bible), before all the corruptions came in.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:36 pm to Squirrelmeister
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but relative to the folks on this site, I have more expertise than most.
No... you really don't, at all. You just THINK you do. In reality, you know very little of what the Bible actually teaches. But whatever. Do carry on leading people astray.
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