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re: Ralph Abraham internal polling numbers: Not looking good for the GOP
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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our STATE sales tax is actually middle of the pack nationally.
We rank just below TN. We have fricked property tax structure that forces the legislature to go the sales tax route or income tax route. we really need to stop comparing ourselves to TX and FL. we have 4.5 million people and they have 35 and 25 million people and different resources and attraction irrespective of governmental crap.
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:04 pm to KiwiHead
Agreed. We have one of the lowest property tax rates in the country. That is largely made up by local sales taxes.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:07 pm to deltaland
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He has a budget surplus while his GOP predecessor had huge deficits.
In La, the government is constitutionally required to balance the budget. No governor in the history of the state has ran a budget deficit. So there is no reason to crown JBE a hero, considering he voted for 6 out of 8 Jindal budgets. If JBE is such a budget whiz, why did he agree with Jindal admin spending 75% of his political career?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:10 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Then why hasn't he mentioned it?
uh, the OP link is to Abraham’s website. If it was bad they would have never released it.
If i’m Comrade Edwards and I’m getting that same poll result, I would be sweating profusely.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:20 pm to Rock the Casbah
They didn't really "release it". I couldn't find it directly from their website. Found it from a link on ballotopedia.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If the 2019 election for Governor of Louisiana were held today, and the candidates were just the Democrat John Bel Edwards and the Republican Ralph Abraham, for whom would you vote?
John Bel Edwards: 48%
Ralph Abraham: 44%
Undecided: 8%
That's actually a bad sign for the guv. If he cant get to 50% after 4 years, against a guy who has never ran statewide, then its not likely those undecideds are going to break for him in the run-off
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:56 pm to RobbBobb
1. JBE is vulnerable only because we have so many mindless Repubs in this state who will vote for any Repub over any Democrat regardless.
BUT..
2. I predict that JBE will get 51.5% on Oct 12.
3. Louisiana has one of the lowest individual tax burdens in the country. We are 45th. Texas is 46th.
BUT..
2. I predict that JBE will get 51.5% on Oct 12.
3. Louisiana has one of the lowest individual tax burdens in the country. We are 45th. Texas is 46th.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:02 pm to KiwiHead
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Only sales tax got raised
Wrong
Phone tax, alcohol tax, rental taxes, cigarette taxed were all increased.
He added about 1.5 Billion in new taxes (over 15% increase in state revenues) to fix the crisis he crested (putting old ladies on the street, canceling LSU football, etc,),
The economy immediately tanked and we’ve seen an outward migration of our people since then.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:09 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They didn't really "release it".
Interesting because I’m looking at a press release dated Sept 12, 2:56 PM from the Abraham campaign with a link to the OP document.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:15 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Interesting because I’m looking at a press release dated Sept 12, 2:56 PM from the Abraham campaign with a link to the OP document.
The truth is the JBE butt kissers in the media ignored it. Good catch.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:17 pm to upgrayedd
Why will JBE win again? Have ya'll not had enough statues torn down? Frick NOLA you can overcome that leftist diehard vote like most States do to put out the trash..
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:18 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Interesting because I’m looking at a press release dated Sept 12, 2:56 PM from the Abraham campaign with a link to the OP document.
Oh did he? I stand corrected then. I legit searched for it online and on his website but didn't see it.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:19 pm to GeorgeWest
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mindless Repubs in this state who will vote for any Repub over any Democrat regardless
Why are you alt leftists devoid of self awareness?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:41 pm to Langland
quote:yep, just read the PT board
We truly do have some stupid mother frickers in this state.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:41 pm to GeorgeWest
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Louisiana has one of the lowest individual tax burdens in the country. We are 45th. Texas is 46th.
Not really.
You’re skirting reality with fancy word selection like JBE promoting HIS great unemployment numbers. He has lost jobs but he has run Louisiana workers out of state at a higher rate. A lot less workers looking for less jobs makes a great statistic but a real suck-arsed reality.
In your case you inserted individual into the total Louisiana tax burden.
According to the U.S. Census last available figures, in 2015, Louisiana was the highest Per Capita government (state and local) spending in the Old South.
Louisiana $9,037, Kentucky $8,920, Mississippi $8,853, South Carolina $8,698, Virginia $8,611, Alabama $8,345, Arkansas $8,189, Texas $8,169, Tennessee $8,120, North Carolina $8,031, Oklahoma $7,878, Florida $7,610, and Georgia $7,263.
Louisiana is a high tax-high spending-big government Southern state. We also have a lower Per Capita income than all those states except in order: South Carolina, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, and of course Mississippi.
We need a new government framework. We should look at the more successful states 2 Florida (2nd lowest taxes), 3 Texas (7th), 4 Tennessee (6th), and 5 Oklahoma (3rd) in Per Capita income. 1 Virginia is the outlier because of Federal salaries of DC.
Himmm.... Texas with middle taxes and all others below average taxes (6th, 3rd, and 2nd), I wonder....
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:42 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I don't see where this poll was really touted by the Abraham campaign
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John Bel Edwards, Democrat: 45%
Ralph Abraham, Republican: 27%
Gee... I wonder why that is.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:47 pm to Gaspergou202
This article from this year has up at #46. Not sure where they get their figures from though.
46. Louisiana
> Taxes paid as pct. of income: 7.6%
> Income per capita: $43,660 (11th lowest)
> Income tax collections per capita: $612 (13th lowest)
> Property tax collections per capita: $869 (8th lowest)
> General sales tax collections per capita: $680 (14th lowest)
46. Louisiana
> Taxes paid as pct. of income: 7.6%
> Income per capita: $43,660 (11th lowest)
> Income tax collections per capita: $612 (13th lowest)
> Property tax collections per capita: $869 (8th lowest)
> General sales tax collections per capita: $680 (14th lowest)
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
How about this 2019 state ranking from US News
50th Louisiana
Breakdown per category:
HEALTH CARE: 45
EDUCATION: 48
ECONOMY: 49
INFRASTRUCTURE: 48
OPPORTUNITY: 50
FISCAL STABILITY: 43
CRIME & CORRECTIONS: 50
NATURAL ENVIRONMENT: 50
LINK
50th Louisiana
Breakdown per category:
HEALTH CARE: 45
EDUCATION: 48
ECONOMY: 49
INFRASTRUCTURE: 48
OPPORTUNITY: 50
FISCAL STABILITY: 43
CRIME & CORRECTIONS: 50
NATURAL ENVIRONMENT: 50
LINK
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:09 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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This article from this year has up at #46. Not sure where they get their figures from though. 46. Louisiana > Taxes paid as pct. of income: 7.6% > Income per capita: $43,660 (11th lowest) > Income tax collections per capita: $612 (13th lowest) > Property tax collections per capita: $869 (8th lowest) > General sales tax collections per capita: $680 (14th lowest)
Not questioning your honesty.
Figures don’t lie, but lie tellers figure. And confusion confuses. Let’s try to keep it clear.
For example income tax, 13th lowest+ property tax 8th lowest+ General sales taxes 14th lowest=????? There is no way to tell. Income tax of $612 is incalculably more than Texas and Florida who pay 0. Also business taxes and government fees and fines greatly influence an individual’s economic well-being.
That’s why I used the Per Capita state and local government expenditures. In Louisiana government expenditures roughly equal government revenues. And despite fancy categories, government revenues are basically taxes. Really, paying for a license plate sticker is a tax despite its official designation as a fee.
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