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re: Ralph Abraham: I Will Put an End to Sanctuary Cities in Louisiana when I'm Governor

Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109557 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:13 am to
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This is stupid pandering


Like saying you'll cure cance


You think he’s a big Biden guy?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:13 am to
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Ralph Abraham: I Will Put an End to Sanctuary Cities in Louisiana when I'm Governor

Until some Obama appointed judge say."Nah...I don't think so."
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119650 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:30 am to
JBE won over suburban women and moderate Rs who were repulsed by Vitter. I'd be surprised if many people who prioritize immigration voted for JBE.


You can spin this all you want but it's typical of the LA GOP. Reminds me of all the goobers who ran commercials from 2009-15 in this state with their family behind them saying they'd fight the "Obama Agenda" from their seat in Baton Rouge.
Posted by USA Dan
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Jul 2015
996 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:32 am to
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I know this is priority number one in Louisiana


Why would you assume this is the only thing he'll address?

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41913 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:42 am to
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This is stupid pandering

Welcome to politics. 


He has to do more than this. IMHO, the main reason JBE is a major threat to be re-elected is that the Republican nominee's lack connectivity to the base. This is not an issue with legs in the minds of educated voters imho (not that it doesn't have merit). It is just that those voters have enough wealth to insulate them from contact with this issue.

If you want to connect with the voters on the fence (RINOs), then I feel that these are some of the issues that need to be pushed:

Traffic congestion
Infrastructure
TOPS (restructuring)
College Campus safety

Mind you, I am not saying don't address fiscal concerns. I am simply saying that Abraham and Rispone are having a hard time getting traction. Pandering to the people who are already going to vote for you seems unwise.
Just my .02.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:43 am to
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JBE won over suburban women and moderate Rs who were repulsed by Vitter.


Uh dude, that's almost verbatim for what I said while leaving out the part where I said JBE discussed absolutely nothing policy wise.

Were you blasting him for that like I was back then?

No, no you weren't.

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I'd be surprised if many people who prioritize immigration voted for JBE.


When the race is a straight up ideological and nationalized cultural battle, they will swing back to conservative.

Vitter lost because a lot of democrats who usually vote republican went to JBE.

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Reminds me of all the goobers who ran commercials from 2009-15 in this state with their family behind them saying they'd fight the "Obama Agenda" from their seat in Baton Rouge.


Uh huh, and they won the election and got to make policy we are forced to live with.

Don't like it?

Come up with a candidate you like that can pander way better than those guys.

Fortunately for us, both conservative candidates for Governor are actually legit unlike the two arse clown RINOs in Dardenne and Angelle. So I say to them, pander away.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119650 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:44 am to
Do you ever demand competence from the state GOP or are you assured they're doing a good job by the (R) next to their names?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33890 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:44 am to
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This is stupid pandering

Come back when he proposes to eliminate the state income tax or cut whole departments



Have to get elected first. To do that, a bit of pandering is required.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119650 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:47 am to
I'm fine with pandering. What I'm not fine with is the same lip service we've gotten from state Republicans since the 1990s.

Which candidate is proposing to slash spending and cut departments? Reform the tax code?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:51 am to
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IMHO, the main reason JBE is a major threat to be re-elected


There has not been one single poll that shows he has the necessary 50.1% to win outright in the first round.

And he's in dead heat if not outright tied with the republican candidates in the runoff.

There's also been a poll showing more than 40% of democrats want another democrat for Governor.

This race is shaping up to be like the 2014 senate race.

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the Republican nominee's lack connectivity to the base.


Louisiana does not have party nominees.

If you're talking about Abraham, he just tied JBE in a runoff poll despite having like 50% name recognition.

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This is not an issue with legs in the minds of educated voters imho (not that it doesn't have merit). It is just that those voters have enough wealth to insulate them from contact with this issue.


Not enough of them to matter.

Besides, they already know JBE's positions after 4 years.

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I am simply saying that Abraham and Rispone are having a hard time getting traction.


Abraham just got the endorsement from a public service commissioner who supported JBE in 2015 and snagged Boysie Bollinger for his finance committee and Bollinger gave money to JBE this year.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109557 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:52 am to
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There's also been a poll showing more than 40% of democrats want another democrat for Governor.



The hell does this mean?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:53 am to
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Do you ever demand competence from the state GOP


Who said anything about the state GOP?

I don't give a shite about them. They don't control who runs or who doesn't. They're just an advertising and financial support apparatus for republicans in Louisiana.

You give them way too much influence that is laughable.

If the State GOP had the power and influence you think they have, they would have never allowed the Vitter/Jindal feud to boil over to a point where it helped JBE win the Governor's mansion.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:54 am to
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The hell does this mean?



Click this.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41913 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:55 am to
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Have to get elected first. To do that, a bit of pandering is required.




True...but is this the issue?

I don't see this as getting much traction. Those voters that feel strongly about it were going to vote R anyway. IMHO, there are other issues to connect to the "soccer moms" and the "middle class" Republicans. I would focus my pandering to those issues.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62827 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:56 am to
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Lafayette is a sanctuary city too

I'm actually seeing fewer Mexicans here, because of the job market shrinking. Not a whole lot fewer, but fewer.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109557 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:56 am to
So, it means they want somebody OTHER than JBE? What do you think that means with regard to the GOP candidates? I wouldn’t think much.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41699 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:56 am to
You can’t force the governor to send State Police to patrol the French Quarter because NOPD can’t do it and do their job parish wide.

Cut the cord, let NO bring in the illegals and take care of them by themselves.

Harboring illegals is wrong, picking and choosing which laws you enforce is wrong.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41699 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 am to
Lafayette is still suffering from the oil bust.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119650 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:57 am to
The State through the State Police have a vested interested in keeping the hotel/motel tax collections fat.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:00 am to
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So, it means they want somebody OTHER than JBE?


Well did you read the question?

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What do you think that means with regard to the GOP candidates? I wouldn’t think much.


There could be an opportunity to depress the democrat base to just enough where JBE can't get 50.1% in the first round.

How that happens remains to be seen and I hope it can be figured out. That much discontent from the base is not a good thing for an incumbent.
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