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re: Rafael Grossi- IAEA confirms Iran has enough material to make several nuclear warheads.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:19 am to 1999
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:19 am to 1999
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Same story for 30 years. Always “almost there”.
And, Israel (with US help) is why they have not gotten closer - usually, without firing a weapon.
2012: Carneige
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:19 am to Proximo
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Ah yes the scientist had access to the full intelligence you say?
The scientist that's charged with overseeing the Iran Nuclear Program almost certainly does have access to all the intelligence.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:23 am to Proximo
Again, how do we know they halted anything in 2003, when we dont even know what they were doing to start with? They never stopped shat. But now we admit they have enrichment.
Tomorrow we will have accurate readings published on the climate and pronounce.....We have stopped global warming.
Tomorrow we will have accurate readings published on the climate and pronounce.....We have stopped global warming.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:28 am to joshnorris14
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and that the nuclear watchdog has been warning for years that Iran was refusing to share data on its nuclear activities.
This should be the full report, period….
The rest is speculation.
If all parties are serious about maintaining whatever agreement was made in the past, as soon as Iran refused to cooperate, the agreement should end.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:30 am to deathvalleytiger10
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all parties are serious about maintaining whatever agreement was made in the past, as soon as Iran refused to cooperate, the agreement should end.
The US ended the agreement.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody thinks Iran has nukes right now
Then they are idiots
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:36 am to SDVTiger
Lol
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:38 am to SDVTiger
Israel would not be attacking Iran if Iran has nukes
That's the entire point of stopping Iran from getting nukes. Nukes are a deterrent, not an offensive force
If you want to see a great example of this, then look at Russia after their invasion in Ukraine. The only reason why the West has not gotten involved and squashed Russia is because of the threat of their nuclear arsenal. Nukes are about defense and the point of bombing, Iran prior to them. Having nukes is to eliminate the possibility of this super defense from future actions. You don't attack a country after they have nukes
That's the entire point of stopping Iran from getting nukes. Nukes are a deterrent, not an offensive force
If you want to see a great example of this, then look at Russia after their invasion in Ukraine. The only reason why the West has not gotten involved and squashed Russia is because of the threat of their nuclear arsenal. Nukes are about defense and the point of bombing, Iran prior to them. Having nukes is to eliminate the possibility of this super defense from future actions. You don't attack a country after they have nukes
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:40 am to SDVTiger
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Then they are idiots
I’m in the middle on this. I think it’s very possible they could have them and probably do to some extent but also don’t trust a whole lot of what a globalist group that collaborates with the WEF like the IAEA does has to say. I’m always leery about the intentions of these intergovernmental organizations as a general rule.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:51 am to joshnorris14
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I'll state this clearly. According to the IAEA, Iran currently has zero material capable of being used for nuclear weapons. In the future, if Iran successfully enriches their existing nuclear material to weapons grade levels, they will AT THAT POINT IN TIME (emphasized because that is not today) have enough for 9 weapons.
You are the one being intellectually dishonest here. The truth is in the middle. Iran has enriched the nuclear material FAR PAST the stage that is ever needed for energy/industrial/commercial usage. They are VERY CLOSE to having it enriched to weapons grade. Their intent is to have nuclear weapons. How can you be this dishonest... and stupid.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:59 am to Tridentds
I though that said IKEA and was like lol. I guess they've expanded their product line.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:01 am to CAD703X
[quote]I though that said IKEA and was like lol. I guess they've expanded their product line.[/quote
You thought people could spend money on furnishing out outdoor kitchens and patios- those don’t have shite on interior decorating for a nuclear fallout shelter.
You thought people could spend money on furnishing out outdoor kitchens and patios- those don’t have shite on interior decorating for a nuclear fallout shelter.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:03 am to Bayoubred
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You are the one being intellectually dishonest here. The truth is in the middle. Iran has enriched the nuclear material FAR PAST the stage that is ever needed for energy/industrial/commercial usage. They are VERY CLOSE to having it enriched to weapons grade. Their intent is to have nuclear weapons. How can you be this dishonest... and stupid.
I'm not being dishonest. I'm not saying Iran does not have a desire or has not taken actions to build a nuclear weapon. I am certainly not ruling out the possibility that their intent is to have nuclear weapons.
I'm saying the OP was outright lying by claiming the IAEA chief said that Iran has enough material to make several warheads. The IAEA chief's statement was a conditional one that means they don't currently have the material (because they don't currently have the material) and that if they enrich it to weapons grade, they will have the material.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:04 am to joshnorris14
Jan, 2023. IAEA states they tested material and it was at 83.7%.
Try again....
Try again....
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:05 am to Jjdoc
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an, 2023. IAEA states they tested material and it was at 83.7%.
That is not weapons grade. Tell the IAEA Chief who I am quoting that.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:13 am to Tridentds
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So much for all the bullshite posters claiming Iran isn’t pursuing, not close, etc.
I'm just going to say this now: No reasonable person believed this unless they were just wholly uninformed on the subject.
The Iraq experience has soured people (to a certain degree, understandably) on this sort of rhetoric. Iraq was a paradox itself. Saddam clearly wanted nuclear weapons - was clearly pursuing nuclear weapons. A combination of outside interference, internal corruption and his folks just (dangerously) lying to him about it (really all aspects of his WMD program).
There is no GD good reason for an oil-rich developing nation to get into nuclear power unless the end goal is nuclear weapons. Period. Full stop.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:16 am to Tridentds
It’s possible to simultaneously believe that Iran is pursuing the bomb AND that it’s not our place to unilaterally attack them.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:17 am to Zap Rowsdower
From their new Radioactivüden line
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:18 am to Ace Midnight
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There is no GD good reason for an oil-rich developing nation to get into nuclear power
This doesn't excuse Iran's attempts at weapons, but this also isn't true
Nuclear is a better power option than petro. The fact that they get petro so cheap is irrelevant because they're selling it to fund their entire GDP
Nuclear is still the future for them just like us.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Pakistan is confirmed to have nukes.
Then they need to be destroyed. There are people there that don't like us. We can't take any chances.
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