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re: Quietly, Covid-19 daily case rate is on the rise
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:53 pm to BigJim
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:53 pm to BigJim
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Ah, the old "you got hit by a bus with COVID" nonsense. Again, confirmed COVID deaths are probably understated.
Hey dickbag, my son died on September 8, 2020 from a hit and run driver. The Harris County (tx) medical examiner had him tested for covid. Why?
Understated my arse.
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:54 pm to joshnorris14
If everyone would just do their damn part and wear three masks, we could get past this in two weeks.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:57 pm to joshnorris14
new strains.
more easily transmissible
some places ended limits in business.
more easily transmissible
some places ended limits in business.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:59 pm to joshnorris14
quote:The vaccines don't prevent someone from acquiring the virus.
but you'd expect whatever impact it would have to be cancelled out by the 1-2M vaccines being given a day
They only prevent severe reactions to the virus.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:03 pm to joshnorris14
Yawn.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:07 pm to joshnorris14
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Does anyone have any theories as to what's causing this?
Probably some combination of laxity in physical distancing and the increased prominence of the more contagious UK variant. Not sure how important this is at the moment, new hospitalizations are falling.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:07 pm to joshnorris14
Are all 50 states seeing a slight rise? Some regions? What are the ages of the people infected?
Why would you ask this question of a 5% increase over a 10 day period nationwide? Seems to be a completely irrelevant question.
Why would you ask this question of a 5% increase over a 10 day period nationwide? Seems to be a completely irrelevant question.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:09 pm to LSURussian
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The vaccines don't prevent someone from acquiring the virus
I think this is inaccurate.
The vaccine doesn’t completely prevent 100% future infections. But, It is expected to prevent most infections. And on the macro level it certainly is expected to limit transmission and decrease numbers.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:10 pm to joshnorris14
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Does anyone have any theories as to what's causing this?
My fear is that the Deep State is releasing a deadlier variant of the virus in the Red States that repealed the mask mandate. They will kill innocent people to control other peoples' lives.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:11 pm to LSURussian
This is true to an extent, but it may make cases so mild that you don’t even bother to get checked.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:17 pm to Tiguar
At this point who cares? For all an old car accident deaths could be up I’m sure cancer is up I’m sure heart disease is up.
This entire thing is all BS.
This entire thing is all BS.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:22 pm to BigJim
Sorry BigJim, the only nut job is yourself.
The testing has been adjusted in January because it was far too sensitive and positive tests were presented when the patient was indeed not. This is a fact that Fauci himself discussed when criteria for what was a positive test was changed.
Regarding deaths, it is widely known and reported, even by the MSM, that people have been labeled as Covid deaths that actually passed from heart disease, cancer, etc.., they just happen to have tested positive for Covid close to their death. However, the true cause of death was most certainly not Covid. How many that actually is, who knows?
Have a nice day!
The testing has been adjusted in January because it was far too sensitive and positive tests were presented when the patient was indeed not. This is a fact that Fauci himself discussed when criteria for what was a positive test was changed.
Regarding deaths, it is widely known and reported, even by the MSM, that people have been labeled as Covid deaths that actually passed from heart disease, cancer, etc.., they just happen to have tested positive for Covid close to their death. However, the true cause of death was most certainly not Covid. How many that actually is, who knows?
Have a nice day!
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:22 pm to moneyg
quote:That's not what the nurse told me when I got the vaccine.
But, It is expected to prevent most infections.
quote:LINK
It sounds alarming at first, neither vaccine is aimed at preventing you from getting an infection.
It’s important to know the difference between infection and disease. Dr. Moss said just because you are infected or have transmitted coronavirus doesn’t mean you get sick.
“So you know, everyone who gets disease has an infection, and the infection causes the disease,” Dr. Moss said. “But not everyone who is infected has the disease.”
That is where Moderna and Pfizer have aimed their vaccines: preventing people from getting sick.
“What's being measured in the trials is whether or not they prevent disease, mild, moderate and severe disease,” Dr. Moss explained.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:37 pm to LSURussian
Well, an infection which isn't identifiable, has a shorter duration, and limits transmission I guess technically is still an infection.
But, in the context of this conversation and explaining the case rate we are seeing, vaccinations absolutely are expected to lower the case numbers.
The trials were meant to determine efficacy of preventing serious illness and safety. That doesn't mean it doesn't prevent infections. They just couldn't prove in such a short period of time that it did. It takes a lot more time and numbers to get those results.
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“But is it effective at preventing asymptomatic disease? There’s an open question about how much the vaccine is going to decrease transmission. It will take time to do those studies,” he told Healthline.
In December, Moderna submitted data to the Food and Drug Administration showing that its vaccine prevented two-thirds of all infections, including asymptomatic ones.
That was a secondary finding from its testing. Now the company is conducting a further smaller study.
“That’s the data that has made us optimistic. That, particularly after getting two doses, we may not only be protected from illness but protected from infection itself,” said Schaffner.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:02 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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The testing has been adjusted in January because it was far too sensitive and positive tests were presented when the patient was indeed not. This is a fact that Fauci himself discussed when criteria for what was a positive test was changed.
I believe you are looking at PCR tests. I don't even count those. They are good for quick results, and better than nothing, but that only goes so far.
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Regarding deaths, it is widely known and reported, even by the MSM, that people have been labeled as Covid deaths that actually passed from heart disease, cancer, etc.., they just happen to have tested positive for Covid close to their death. However, the true cause of death was most certainly not Covid. How many that actually is, who knows?
COVID is a contributing factor that leads to pneumonia or cardiac arrest, etc. But those people still would not have died without getting COVID. So a COVID death is a death where someone tested positive for COVID AND the authority (coroner in Louisiana) says COVID was a contributing factor.
This isn't any different than how other diseases are treated as causes of death.
And if anything there is probably an understatement of COVID deaths (again early on) as tests were not plentiful.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 2:04 pm to joshnorris14
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Does anyone have any theories as to what's causing this?
Crisis at the border. The one Trump was fixing and Biden has made worse.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 3:10 pm to joshnorris14
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The RELATIVE increase is through the roof
3% increase is through the roof? I hope you remember that when your boss gives you a 3% raise.
It is not through the roof. It is a virus, we will never be at 0 cases per day. 0.016% of the population was recorded as a new Covid case - that is not through the roof, that is not alarming, that is nothing.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 3:59 pm to joshnorris14
Piss off
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:06 pm to joshnorris14
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On March 13th the 7-day average of daily new cases reported reached just under 56,000. Over the past 10 days, we have seen a very slight rise to almost 58,000. This is certainly small, but given the massive drop in cases we've seen since January, and the proliferation of the vaccine, I was hoping we'd see more significant reduction in cases.
Does anyone have any theories as to what's causing this?
Oh Oh now do Flu!
Posted on 3/24/21 at 4:21 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
Perhaps Occams Razor. Testing seven day average has gone up well over 100,000 versus previous weeks, that means the addional cases are happening a a 2% positive rate.
Tells me the vaccine and herd immunity is having a very positive effect. If every thing else was static you should have seen an increase of 10-15 thousand cases versus 2K.
Tells me the vaccine and herd immunity is having a very positive effect. If every thing else was static you should have seen an increase of 10-15 thousand cases versus 2K.
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