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re: Question for vax refusniks
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:37 am to PentagonTiger
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:37 am to PentagonTiger
I’ve got to run for work, but I’ve honestly appreciated the conversation. I’ll leave with my original point. It should be your decision to take the vaccine or not. Just don’t spout misinformation from a partisan source to justify yourself. It’s a personal choice that we should all make on our own for ourselves and our families. I know some don’t trust authority but in my opinion we’ve got to trust some people and I tend to trust doctors and scientists. That’s just me but to each their own.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:40 am to PentagonTiger
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st don’t spout misinformation from a partisan source to justify yourself.
I just showed you where the CDC was highly partisan so...
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:42 am to Robin Masters
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an agency that is overwhelming partisan is beyond reproach in your world.
I just don't get why he sees it this way? Obama, and all his agencies told us again and again, that we can keep our doctor. We now know he, and all the various agencies, were flat out lying and they knew it. So why should we trust any agency on face value?
We can look at the risk/reward of the vaccine and make a decision. A decision that doesn't affect anyone that has taken the so called "vaccine" if it does what they say it will do. The fact that the CDC still says you need to wear a mask and social distance, even after taking the vaccine, should tell you all you need to know about it.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:53 am to PentagonTiger
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Again, if you feel like the experts in these organizations are manipulated by whatever administration is in charge, then we will have to agree to disagree. However, the FDA and CDC are separate and make decisions a part from each other and actually have had differing opinions then Fauci who is tied in with the past two administrations. the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) That makes decisions on granting EUA and ultimately full authorization are a group of nongovernmental scientists who advise the fda in whether a vaccine should be approved. So, they aren’t bureaucrats. They vote on whether something by should be granted approval and then the fda acts on their recommendation. So I do trust their opinions over politicians.
this would be hilarious if it wasnt so hopelessly naive
but then you put Pentagon into your userID and it makes a lot of sense that you would be a big fan of the Fed Govt and its bottomless well of bureaucrats and well intentioned but completely corrupted policies and procedures
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:54 am to supatigah
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but then you put Pentagon into your userID
Heh...he's going to explain it again...at some point he may change it since it keeps getting easily confused
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:18 pm to Bulldogblitz
what is the story?
nevermind, I see it is something to do with Pentagon Cafeteria
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he's going to explain it again
nevermind, I see it is something to do with Pentagon Cafeteria
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:33 pm to ClosingTime
Fuk the election, this shite they are squirting in people has not been properly tested. Long range effects not known.
I worked in the R&D department for Navartis for a while. What I learned there is enough for me to know what they are doing MAY be more dangerous than the kungflu.
They can stick it up their arse for all I care.
I worked in the R&D department for Navartis for a while. What I learned there is enough for me to know what they are doing MAY be more dangerous than the kungflu.
They can stick it up their arse for all I care.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 12:40 pm to ClosingTime
I'm pretty indifferent to the vaccine itself. I was in no hurry to get it because I'm not worried about dying if I catch Covid, so I didn't rush to get it. I had somewhat decided I'd get it anyway until all of the talk about a passport and potentially being forced to get it. frick that, I should be able to get it or not own my own accord, and it shouldn't be anyone else's business whether I have had it or not
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:18 pm to PentagonTiger
Well, there are actually quite a few. I'm not sure how many you want me to link. But my suspicion is whatever number it is it wont be good enough or brushed aside.
The vaccine is introducing mRNA into our bodies. This is agreed upon universally. (Even your rebuttal source which I mention below points it out)
We are told mRNA is a minimal amount and eliminated. If you want to believe that so be it; Many scientist and epidemiologists do not. I don't believe enough research has been done. Most vaccines are in trial for 7 years. That doesn't include FDA approval.
A "Vaccine" developed in under a year with Google, Bill Gates, and the US Gov. supporting how great it is certainly not enough for me (PentagonTiger). I wont blindly inject something that COULD alter my DNA. If you've already got the shot and need to feel better than listen to factcheck.org and Snopes.
Your rebuttal is a fact-check from Reuters. Its clear he was alluding to DNA change, however, Reuters goes through mental gymnastics to make it seem otherwise.
Look, believe whatever you want. I wish you well, but I honestly don't care enough to keep up a tit for tat with you as it seems we both have our minds made up. Bottom line is I'm not convinced its safe. You seem to be; Cheers to you.
1. “The DNA template (SARS-Cov2, Gen Bank:MN9089473) was generated via a combination of gene synthesis and recombinant DNA technology.”
In other words, as I and others have said, they are injecting people with GMO products for who knows what reason. Or, as I jokingly like to say, at least you won’t have to worry about eating GMO food after the “vaccine” as you, yourself, have been GMO’d.
One of the main points here is this drug is NOT a vaccine in any conventional use of that word. It is a genetic-engineered drug designed to have its effect through some sort of modification of your DNA. If that isn’t a scary proposition, I don’t know what is.
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2. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a German physician and epidemiologist, said: “In fact, this ‘promising vaccine’ for the vast majority of people should be FORBIDDEN, because it is genetic manipulation!”
3. Modified RNA has a direct effect on DNA
Here is a link to an article based on a Pre-Covid study stating clearly that mRNA has an effect on our DNA.
Pre COvid DNA changed as a result of mRNA.
The vaccine is introducing mRNA into our bodies. This is agreed upon universally. (Even your rebuttal source which I mention below points it out)
We are told mRNA is a minimal amount and eliminated. If you want to believe that so be it; Many scientist and epidemiologists do not. I don't believe enough research has been done. Most vaccines are in trial for 7 years. That doesn't include FDA approval.
A "Vaccine" developed in under a year with Google, Bill Gates, and the US Gov. supporting how great it is certainly not enough for me (PentagonTiger). I wont blindly inject something that COULD alter my DNA. If you've already got the shot and need to feel better than listen to factcheck.org and Snopes.
Your rebuttal is a fact-check from Reuters. Its clear he was alluding to DNA change, however, Reuters goes through mental gymnastics to make it seem otherwise.
Look, believe whatever you want. I wish you well, but I honestly don't care enough to keep up a tit for tat with you as it seems we both have our minds made up. Bottom line is I'm not convinced its safe. You seem to be; Cheers to you.
1. “The DNA template (SARS-Cov2, Gen Bank:MN9089473) was generated via a combination of gene synthesis and recombinant DNA technology.”
In other words, as I and others have said, they are injecting people with GMO products for who knows what reason. Or, as I jokingly like to say, at least you won’t have to worry about eating GMO food after the “vaccine” as you, yourself, have been GMO’d.
One of the main points here is this drug is NOT a vaccine in any conventional use of that word. It is a genetic-engineered drug designed to have its effect through some sort of modification of your DNA. If that isn’t a scary proposition, I don’t know what is.
LINK 1
2. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a German physician and epidemiologist, said: “In fact, this ‘promising vaccine’ for the vast majority of people should be FORBIDDEN, because it is genetic manipulation!”
3. Modified RNA has a direct effect on DNA
Here is a link to an article based on a Pre-Covid study stating clearly that mRNA has an effect on our DNA.
Pre COvid DNA changed as a result of mRNA.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:33 pm to ClosingTime
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If the election had not been stolen and Trump was in the White House and actively pushing vaccines, would you be more likely to get one?
It's a certainty that Trump is more able to mobilize people to do things than the puppet that is Biden.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:40 pm to ClosingTime
Nope
Posted on 5/6/21 at 2:09 pm to PentagonTiger
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Well I was talking about people politicizing this thing being bs and we should look at the scientific studies by the fda and cdc.
When I see the results of a 5 year scientific CDC study on the effects, I will reconsider. Until then, YOU can go ahead and take whatever you want. I will too - and I don't want this "vaccine" at this point. Stop trying to push it as safe when you really have no idea.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 2:18 pm to ClosingTime
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If the election had not been stolen and Trump was in the White House and actively pushing vaccines, would you be more likely to get one?
Hell no.
Similar subject, since it's now been a year, shouldn't all of us "anti-maskers" be dead from COVID by now? I actually know two people that died from COVID:
1) Female, 71, slightly overweight but otherwise in fair health. Caught COVID in hospital while recovering from shoulder surgery just before hospitals went full-tilt with COVID restrictions.
2) Male, 45, 6'5" and pretty active but overweight by quite a bit at 400# with beginning stages of heart disease. Was always a bigtime weight lifter and football assistant coach but not a cardio guy until he learned about potential heart disease. He had begun losing weight and eating better for several months before COVID got him.
-Both were maskers, never took them off if not in their homes.
Conversely, I had it and so did my immediate family and some extended family. It made me feel a little off and wrecked my smell and taste which still hasn't recovered fully after a year. It wrecked my wife, and son who was 18 at the time. It did absolutely nothing to my daughter who was 15 at the time.
So, no. I won't wear a mask and I won't get a vaccine. Wanna know when the last time I got a flu shot was? 1998. That was also the last time I had the flu, shortly after I got the flu vaccination. Coincidence? You decide for yourself. I call it evidence.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:25 pm to PentagonTiger
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:35 pm to ClosingTime
Quick poll. Does using the term “refusnik” (sic) make me a douchebag?
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:39 pm to ClosingTime
There is no vaccine.
Learn it.
Know it
Live it.
As for 'pushing' for shots, fine. Do as many PSA's as you like, but once you start MANDATING (which Biden said he'd never do) that's crossing the line.
Why?
Because ... there IS no covid vaccine.
The shot doesn't end covid, nor does it stop the spread.
Change the definition of 'vaccine' after the fact, I'm not buying it. Can't change a FG from 3pts to 20 in the 2nd quarter of the game.
Learn it.
Know it
Live it.
As for 'pushing' for shots, fine. Do as many PSA's as you like, but once you start MANDATING (which Biden said he'd never do) that's crossing the line.
Why?
Because ... there IS no covid vaccine.
The shot doesn't end covid, nor does it stop the spread.
Change the definition of 'vaccine' after the fact, I'm not buying it. Can't change a FG from 3pts to 20 in the 2nd quarter of the game.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:45 pm to ClosingTime
If your decision on getting stuck or not was based on a political ideology, you're so fricked in the head you shouldn't have a vote. This country isn't college football, which is what it has unfortunately devolved into.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:47 pm to ClosingTime
quote:no
If the election had not been stolen and Trump was in the White House and actively pushing vaccines, would you be more likely to get one?
Posted on 4/17/22 at 11:23 pm to ClosingTime
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If the election had not been stolen and Trump was in the White House and actively pushing vaccines, would you be more likely to get one?
No, it had nothing to do with Trump. I was never going to get this shot.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 12:10 am to ClosingTime
How fricking stupid do you feel now?
There is no "vaccine".
There is no "vaccine".
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