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Question about rape and abortion
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:44 am
Rape and incest seem to be common reasons why some would allow an abortion even if it's otherwise considered unethical.
How exactly does this work? Would someone need to be convicted of rape first?
Will the number of men accused of rape skyrocket.
The only way I see how this plays out is that a rape
"victim" wouldn't have to name a rapist. Thus, it would still be abortion at will with a procedural formality that the woman states the reason is because she was raped.
How exactly does this work? Would someone need to be convicted of rape first?
Will the number of men accused of rape skyrocket.
The only way I see how this plays out is that a rape
"victim" wouldn't have to name a rapist. Thus, it would still be abortion at will with a procedural formality that the woman states the reason is because she was raped.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:48 am
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:47 am to BornKjun
If you look at the numbers, it's obvious that a lot of females getting abortions already claim rape as the reason. The actual rape stats and pregnancy stats don't mesh with the abortion stats.
So expect nothing to change
So expect nothing to change
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:53 am to BornKjun
I assume if you were truly raped, a morning after pill would be high on your priority list?? That would definitely change the argument so let’s ignore this fact.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:01 am to BornKjun
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Will the number of men accused of rape skyrocket.
Absolutely, and it is directly proportional to the number of womens who aren't believed. It will be like the PoundMeToo movement; it will be inundated with so many false accusations that legitimate victims will be cheapened and distrusted.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:02 am to BornKjun
The problem with abortion being considered a right is that it’s proponents view it as an absolute right with no restrictions. The fallacy of this argument however is that no other right is absolute. Free speech has restrictions as does the right to bear arms. Abortion should be no different. The question that needs to be addressed is at what point do the rights of the unborn trump the rights of the mother.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:04 am to BornKjun
Maybe the better policy would be to end the charade and just have abortion as an available alternative until 22 weeks.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:13 am to BornKjun
quote:
The only way I see how this plays out is that a rape "victim" wouldn't have to name a rapist. Thus, it would still be abortion at will with a procedural formality that the woman states the reason is because she was raped.
You are absolutely correct. An exception that cannot be verified isn't an exception at all.
Think about it. The woman is about to kill her unborn child. Do you really think she cares that she has to lie about why she's doing it?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:17 am to TBoy
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Maybe the better policy would be to end the charade and just have abortion as an available alternative until 22 weeks.
Exactly, Let people make their own decisions
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:18 am to Wolf Messing
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Let people make their own decisions
Except the unborn people. They just get a cold spatula
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:23 am to TBoy
quote:
Maybe the better policy would be to end the charade and just have abortion as an available alternative until 22 weeks.
Why would a woman need 22 weeks to decide she wanted to abort a rape pregnancy?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:26 am to Vecchio Cane
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Except the unborn people. They just get a cold spatula
If it makes you feel better we will give the fetus a vote at 22 weeks or earlier, and will take in consideration if it votes "Yea" or "Neh"
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:31 am to Wolf Messing
The only requirement in Ga is a police report.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:35 am to BornKjun
quote:
The only way I see how this plays out is that a rape
"victim" wouldn't have to name a rapist.
And file a police report within a reasonable time and not some.."Ummmm....I was raped 6 months ago" shtick.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:37 am to Wolf Messing
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Exactly, Let people make their own decisions
Then why limit it to 22 weeks?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:53 am to BornKjun
Why should how the conception occurred affect whether or not the unborn child is a living person with dignity and a right to life? Can a mother who gave birth to a "rape baby" decide later to kill it if she's feeling too traumatized?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:56 am to BornKjun
My question would be what is the True percentage of abortions because of rape & incest. Probably minuscule.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:07 am to BornKjun
This is why it’s so absurd to have exceptions for murder.
Innocent human organisms do not deserve the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
It’s a proven scientific fact that human organisms are created at conception.
Either you believe all human organisms are created with equal inherent/natural rights,
or,
you believe we merely have privileges that are arbitrarily granted by whoever happens to be ruling over us at the moment that can discriminate however they feel like.
The woman’s body plays a significant role in creating new life too, regardless of her knowing or intending it to happen. She forces her offspring into a temporary situation of life dependency and therefore she is responsible for safely getting her offspring through it.
Innocent human organisms do not deserve the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
It’s a proven scientific fact that human organisms are created at conception.
Either you believe all human organisms are created with equal inherent/natural rights,
or,
you believe we merely have privileges that are arbitrarily granted by whoever happens to be ruling over us at the moment that can discriminate however they feel like.
The woman’s body plays a significant role in creating new life too, regardless of her knowing or intending it to happen. She forces her offspring into a temporary situation of life dependency and therefore she is responsible for safely getting her offspring through it.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:20 am to BornKjun
What needs to happen is for local law enforcement to particularly keep an eye out for and pursue cases of filing false police report if they find sufficient evidence of such. There is felony level of that crime in Louisiana and I suspect same with most states.
Would it be difficult to find cases with sufficient evidence that would warrant prosecution, sure, but some would be found. Just a few successful prosecutions would be at least some level of deterrence.
Would it be difficult to find cases with sufficient evidence that would warrant prosecution, sure, but some would be found. Just a few successful prosecutions would be at least some level of deterrence.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:24 am to davyjones
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What needs to happen is for local law enforcement to particularly keep an eye out for and pursue cases of filing false police report if they find sufficient evidence of such. There is felony level of that crime in Louisiana and I suspect same with most states.
Juicy Smalls says "Hey!"
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:27 am to TigerWhatIR
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It’s a proven scientific fact that human organisms are created at conception.
It is not proven, and there is actually quite a bit of unanswerable debate over when a human life begins.
And that is really the crux of the abortion debate. If you believe that life begins at conception, then you cannot accept arguments for ending that life. If you believe that human life starts later in the gestation period, then it is easier to support termination of the pregnancy before that life begins.
Calling the beginning of life a "proven scientific fact" identifies which side of the debate you are on, but does not solve anything.
FTR, I am opposed to abortions, but I don't think the procedure should be illegal.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 11:30 am
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