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re: Putin Drops Truth Bombs On The West! NPR FINALLY Admits To Ukrainian Corruption

Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:33 pm to
A very advanced and extensive missile defense system in Ukraine would be serious business and I’m sure a concern of theirs. I have no reason to believe that’s actually accurate but it sounds good. Like most peoples’ posts I figure. What I do know for sure though, if I were Putin, as long as Joe Biden were the Commander in Chief of U.S. armed forces and America supposed to be the real meat of NATO - I’d not be very worried about much.
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 9:37 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26321 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:33 pm to
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This “New World Order” nonsense has absolutely ZERO legs.


Then why have the elites used that exact phrase? They admit it and you still don't believe it.

The gullibility of the human species is why good things are allowed to turn to shite.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8851 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:36 pm to
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You pathetic POS. If you didn't ask this question 8 years ago when the Ukrainians were killing pregnant women in their own homes, kindly shut the frick up and let adults talk.


None Russian links of this please.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17416 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:41 pm to
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How about NATO/EU/WEF/NWO taking over all of us?


This isn’t happening. New World Order is a conspiracy theory. If you knew anything about human nature, you would understand that this is an impossible task to pull off. NATO and the EU aren’t militarily taking over countries, like Russia is. Countries aren’t forced to join NATO, they choose to, and all of these countries joining NATO, know firsthand what any influence from Moscow means. Nothing good. That’s a sign that can’t be taken lightly, because these are the people who have actually lived through and experienced rule from Moscow.

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Liberals are so stupid in this country, they think this Ukraine deal is some isolated event?


I’m not a Liberal, so I won’t answer any question pertaining to Liberal opinions on political matters.

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This war is an appetizer for whats to come, it’s a fire starter for The GREAT RESET. This isn’t about Ukraine nor Russia by themselves. This is about Russia saying no to the “New Liberal Order” From taking over a country they share borders with knowing that they are next. This is about Putin trying to keep his country from being forced into a Global Gov’t.


That is not what this is about. This is about a tyrant, who believes that Ukrainian territory should be under Russian influence. He also believes the same about Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Georgia. You can talk about the 2014 “coup”, and 2004 Orange Revolution, but majority of Ukraine wanted to have closer ties with Europe, rather than Russia. The only parts that really wanted to be a part of Ukraine, were in the East and south, but it was still always split there, between having closer ties with the EU or Russia.

At the end of the day, Vladimir Putin doesn’t believe that Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, or Georgia, should have any other influence besides Russian influence. He’ll even twist things, to make his military invasions into anyone of these countries, seem legit. Knows how to spread his propaganda through social media too. It’s found it’s way here.

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This is about Ukraine being a major Money Laundering washing machine for these greedy fricks in DC.


No proof to back this. I’m not a fan of our politicians either, and believe they’re corrupt, but that’s the thing about being corrupt, you’re good at hiding it, and it wouldn’t be out in plain sight for everyone to see. The corruption is going to be where you least expect it.

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1. Why did Hunter Biden serve on the board of the largest Ukrainian Oil Company? 2. Why did Joe Biden (whilst VP of USA), arrogantly EXTORT the Chief Legal Guy for Ukraine by saying “back off of the Oil company that my son serves on, or We/THE USA aren’t gonna give you the money we promised you” I’m paraphrasing, but we have WIDE OPEN EXTORTION from VP of the USA to the Top Law Office in all of Ukraine threatening to pull USA bribe money if he doesn’t stop investigating the Oil company. And I have also heard that possibly Romney, Pelosi & 1-2 other assholes kids or relatives had Cush jobs with the same oil company in Ukraine.


I agree with you a little bit on this stuff, but you sure did twist things, and throw out some theories that can’t be proven, and are realistically just not happening. The Biden’s should answer for Hunters suspicious activity in Ukraine though, but that was a long time ago, and was under a pro Russian leader, so that should tell you something right there about who’s really the corrupt ones.

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Why do you idiots care about simpleton crap when the answers are right in front of you???? Generally speaking, I choose the less of 2 evils, I hope Russia crushes Ukraine ALTHOUGH I pray for the poor innocent people in all of this. Very sad for those people. But the alternative is that the NLWO wants us all dead anyways, so if we can get a win in Ukraine, maybe it stalls the takeover? Could be wishful thinking, but oh well.


Simpleton crap? How am I caring about simpleton crap? None of what I care about in this conflict is simple or easy to fix. Faults on all sides, mainly the US and Russia for just never seeming to want to shake hands, and stop being enemies after 1991. History just tells us a lot about these kinds of conflicts, and how conflicts in certain regions are more serious, tougher to ignore, and stay completely out of. They have huge implications on the entire world. It’s the reality of the world we live in.

Thinking too much into shite means you’re just trying to validate your political agenda, which has little to do in this conflict. You just want the current president to have hell during his presidency, all because you didn’t vote for him. That’s exactly how the radical left operated during Trumps presidency. You guys are just like them now. I didn’t vote for Biden either, but hell for him means hell for us all, and rooting for Russia in this conflict just ain’t it chief. Rooting for Russia will not help your political opinions in anyway. The more success Russia has in this conflict, the more instability and pain that will be felt throughout the world. Don’t understand how you could support them in anyway.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18162 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:48 pm to
War is hell. I'm more pissed that Ukrainian military are using their own countrymen as human shields... knowing that Russia is going to bomb wherever the Ukrainian military is at. I expect Russia to be cruel to Ukraine, I expect Ukraine to be cruel to Russia ... I didn't expect Ukraine to use their own civilians as disposable pawns, though.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17416 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:49 pm to
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What did Putin say about having a new NATO country on his country's border?


So Russia is going to invade Finland now? If one of Putin’s goals is to keep NATO off of his border, then he failed a long time ago, and tried to stand by his word and send a message to anyone else on the Russian border, by invading Ukraine, and failed with that too. Two more countries decided to join NATO because of it.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17416 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:51 pm to
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War is hell. I'm more pissed that Ukrainian military are using their own countrymen as human shields... knowing that Russia is going to bomb wherever the Ukrainian military is at. I expect Russia to be cruel to Ukraine, I expect Ukraine to be cruel to Russia ... I didn't expect Ukraine to use their own civilians as disposable pawns, though.


Yeah, Russia is the shining beacon of the world when it comes to crimes against humanity. They have never ever used their citizens, killed their citizens, or forced them to do anything for the government of Russia…
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17416 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:52 pm to
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You pathetic POS. If you didn't ask this question 8 years ago when the Ukrainians were killing pregnant women in their own homes, kindly shut the frick up and let adults talk.


Where tf were you then bitch?
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25358 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 10:03 pm to
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Then why have the elites used that exact phrase? They admit it and you still don't believe it.


Show me where they have.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2929 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 10:07 pm to
RUSSIAN propaganda

F---ing Russians shot down a passenger airline and bombed cities all over the Donbas and Luhansk targeting UAF and killing civilians in the process.

The f-ing Russians have kidnapped over 200k kids.

And cowards here justify it because they are scared of war escalation.

HUSSIEN, BIDEN, and CLINTON started this shite, Ukraine is paying the price for their foreign policy.

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12609 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 10:28 pm to
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If one of Putin’s goals is to keep NATO off of his border


Looks like it's going to work with the border with Ukraine.

It's in part, because of past US foreign policy, that Ukraine is getting hammered right now.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1841 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 10:59 pm to
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I stand with Ukraine !


You can stand in th GD corner and shut the frick up…
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6293 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:16 pm to
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I’m certain our intelligence agencies and the Obama administration knew. Why did they choose to do nothing?
They didn't do nothing, they facilitated the corruption
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6193 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:09 am to
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If by the rest of the “World” you mean China, India, and a bunch of other third world countries then you are correct.


That's how the world will be getting its fossil fuel fix in the future. I guess we'll see how those third world countries are doing when the US and EU are cutting off their noses to spite Russia/China/etc. Hint: Developed nations are still going to need fossil fuels. They'll just buy it at inflated prices.

The irony of our sanctions against Russia, is that it has only hurt US consumers and made Russia richer. The value of the ruble is much higher than it was before the invasion. Somebody is buying Russia's oil. You can say they're just a bunch of third world countries, but truthfully those are emerging economies that aren't hamstringing themselves to compete in the economy. (Which the West is doing and will continue to do so.)

So yeah, pushing the world into an US vs Them scenario is not good when your enemies prosper while you suffer. The EU and NATO will not outlast this ideological battle. When fall comes I imagine there will be a sudden change of heart (as EU citizens demand oil/gas to heat their homes in the coming winter.)

Then, all sins will be forgotten, and the world will pretend like none of this happened. Meanwhile, the US will be in further debt to nations that hate us. Sounds real smart.
Posted by 19557LSU
Member since Jan 2018
370 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:21 am to
We should all be aware that Ukraine is a money laundering operation for US politicians.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18049 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:35 am to
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HUSSIEN, BIDEN, and CLINTON started this shite, Ukraine is paying the price for their foreign policy.




Ukraine ain't paying for shite, the American taxpayers are paying it.

Some of you old ficks just grew up being scared of Russia and cant move on. This ain't our war. There is bad shite happening all over the world all the time. Our politicians chose to get involved in this war because they've been laundering money through that country for 20+ years. How can you get on your soapbox and hide under your desk at the same time?
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9712 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 6:55 am to
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Truth or not, it’s ok to just bomb the shite out of shopping malls and high rise apartments b/c you don’t care for the gov’t?


I think one thing people have forgotten in this country is that war is not clean and precise with neatly drawn lines of limitation. To quote Sherman: “War is hell.”

The Allies did not win WWII by limiting their strikes to only military targets and supporting infrastructure. We bombed the absolute hell out of civilian targets. Dresden, Berlin, Tokyo, and of course, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Despite the Geneva Convention, there are no true and actual limits on prosecuting a war if you intend to win, or even avoid defeat. Anything goes. The side that inflicts the most pain and devastation generally wins.

Nothing about war is moral.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 7:52 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18787 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:40 am to
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The insane stupidity of this post. NATO is expanding, the world at large is staying out of declaring anything in support of one side or the other, European defense budgets are and will expand, and none of that is the main issue.

Let Russia win Ukraine due to a lack of resolve to keep communism from spreading and watch China start dropping its nuts everywhere.

The fricking support for Russia on this board is mind numbing. You frickers have lost your ever loving minds.


NATO expanding, yeah with a couple more "dependents" that the US will have to defend, course they joined up when THEY feared danger.

What Russia does or does not do in Ukraine has nothing to do with china's long term goals. So if we push back Russia does that mean china stops hacking our economy, they stop shipping drugs to the southern border, they stop militarizing the south china sea? Hmmmm, I doubt it.

If you mean Americans are sick and tired of starting wars so politicians can launder money through the MIC and "donation" agencies, and that somehow construes us as "Putin Lovers" then I guess I am one too.

Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2899 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:47 am to
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This isn’t happening. New World Order is a conspiracy theory.


Yep, just a conspiracy
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42642 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 7:49 am to
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It's not OK for Ukrainians to use them as shields like Hamas does.


I missed the part where Ukraine started all of this by lobbing missiles into Russia.
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