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re: Psaki can’t guarantee military intervention for remaining Americans past August 31st

Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10620 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:16 pm to
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I don't think that reinserting tens of thousands of troops to reoccupy Kabul and other urban areas is in the cards anymore. You do?


Yes, just until we get all civilians out. Then we leave for good. You know, a rescue mission.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:17 pm to
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That not exactly what they said


I didn't use quotes, so you are probably correct.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Yes, just until we get all civilians out. Then we leave for good. You know, a rescue mission.


I think you are overestimating our ability to just make 10,000-20,000 troops or more just appear fully equipped and ready to roll overnight in Afghanistan. That would have required planning, which as we all know there was zero.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:19 pm to
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So wait, are you 2 telling me that the US, the strongest military in the nation, the most powerful nation in the world, has to abide by some "not supposed to be there" rule to bow down to this piss ant country and leave our fellow Americans over there to die? This is what you are telling me? "That ship has sailed", you say? GTFO. Send troops back, kill whoever gets in the way, get our civilians out, get whatever allies you want to get out. Basically, do it like it should have been done in the first place. And if the Taliban call it an act of war, OK. Then handle that situation. It ain't that hard.




Well, nobody has to abide by an agreement, but good luck with another agreement in the future.

quote:

leave our fellow Americans over there to die


That's on Jello Joe, don't blame me for his frick up.

Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Yes, just until we get all civilians out. Then we leave for good. You know, a rescue mission.


That's called an invasion.

Jello Joe fricked this one up good, maybe the biggest frick up in American history.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:22 pm to
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Jello Joe fricked this one up good, maybe the biggest frick up in American history.



That's a stretch. If we start seeing a bunch of Americans getting killed trying to get to the airport or something similar, then we can have that discussion. Right now, no way in hell is this even in consideration.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10620 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:22 pm to
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That's called an invasion.


Oh I don't care what it's called. Like I said, we can wipe that place off the face of the earth for all I care, after we get our people out.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141573 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:24 pm to
I am. They gave themselves an out.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:24 pm to
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That's a stretch. If we start seeing a bunch of Americans getting killed trying to get to the airport or something similar, then we can have that discussion. Right now, no way in hell is this even in consideration.


You're a retard, 1000s of people in harms way for no reason.

This was all avoidable, STFU.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Oh I don't care what it's called. Like I said, we can wipe that place off the face of the earth for all I care, after we get our people out.


They're not going to put 10s of thousands of troops in there and do all that, matter of fact, they're probably lucky they have what they have there now.

Shells can rain down on the airport you know?

Joe fricked this one up good.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:26 pm to
I was talking about this last night with my SIL who is a Capt in the Army. He did 3 combat tours there.

He said it would take battalions to go into a conflict with the Taliban in a densely populated urban environment. We don't have the infrastructure on the ground to support sustained combat operations for that large a force.

We have very few options here.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81388 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:27 pm to
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now that the airport is under control.


What about the routes to it?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:30 pm to
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We have very few options here.


Yup, they're going to have to play nice with the host country.

Don't you love how these people think its so easy to move 10s of thousands of troops, vehicles, supplies and support equipment 1000s of miles in an instant. Out in the middle of freaking nowhere.

These people are very sheltered.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:34 pm to
Or that the enemy will just sit by and let us kill them.

There is a saying in the Military..."The enemy has a say in what happens".

All that artillery they picked up from the Afghan army would level the airport in short order should they choose to do it.

Keyboard warriors.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:35 pm to
I still would
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Or that the enemy will just sit by and let us kill them.

There is a saying in the Military..."The enemy has a say in what happens".

All that artillery they picked up from the Afghan army would level the airport in short order should they choose to do it.

Keyboard warriors.


Yup, no airport, no beach head... options get really limited. Full on invasion would be needed increase troop count from 10s of thousands to 50s+ thousand.

Joe fricked this one up royally, blood is directly on his hands.

Taliban beat the US in the field, and beat them legally.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11301 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
More dead bodies in the street from:

1) Trump tax cuts and Net Neutrality or
2) Abadoning post in Afghan without civilian evac

Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
14056 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:49 pm to
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The Pentagon has already said they expect to be capable of 5,000-9,000 evacuations per day now that the airport is under control.



This wouldn't happen to be the same Pentagon who said there was a 300,000 strong Afghan Army that would keep the Taliban from taking over the country any time in the near future by any chance would it?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
No shite!!

Keep an eye on the #'s per day over the next week. That will tell us if we're getting anyone out.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3060 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:53 pm to
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So are yall wanting the military to go door to door countrywide and track people down and bring them to Kabul or the airport?
YES

Take the handcuffs (ROEs) off our military forces and let them unleash their fury in order to accomplish the mission and bring the people home.

Don't let this turn into Benghazi part 2.

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