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Protest over Pipeline: Tribe complains hippies taking over, mooching off tribe.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:00 pm
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The noble savage meets his fan club.
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Tension is brewing within the Dakota Access protest as complaints grow about outside activists trashing the camps, mooching off donations, and treating the anti-pipeline demonstration like a Burning Man-style festival for hippies.
“Need to get something off my chest that I witnessed and found very disturbing in my brief time there that I believe many others have started to speak up about as well. White people colonizing the camps,” said Alicia Smith on Facebook.
“They are coming in, taking food, clothing etc and occupying space without any desire to participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols,” she said. “These people are treating it like it is Burning Man or The Rainbow Gathering and I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps comparing it to those festivals.”
The noble savage meets his fan club.
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A local deputy who asked to remain anonymous told WDAY-AM’s Rob Port that most of the protesters are white, and that some have used racial slurs against black, Hispanic and Native American officers.
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As many as 3,000 people have moved in and out of the southern North Dakota camps since Aug. 10. Some protesters belong to the Standing Rock and other tribes, but many are students, environmental activists and agitators with criminal records who have ignored Mr. Archambault’s repeated calls for peaceful demonstrations.
“Before this entire movement started, that was some of the most beautiful land around,” Mr. Archambault said. “There was a place down there where eagles, over 100 eagles would come and land. There were game down there—deer, pheasants, elk, geese. Now, it’s occupied by people. And when masses of people come to one place, we don’t take care of it.”
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:03 pm to cokebottleag
LOL, you cannot make that stuff up.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:04 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:04 pm to cokebottleag
I know a kookie hippie type guy who is actually up there now.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:06 pm to cokebottleag
Not surprised. A bunch of mentally ill liberals with a sense of meaningless in their hearts take up the cause to fight for someone else and they wind up taking over and ruining everything. Happens every time.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:06 pm to cokebottleag
Why do liberals love to protest so much? Like physically protest?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:09 pm to crazy4lsu
They have no meaning in their lives. Makes them feel like better people than they are.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:12 pm to FooManChoo
It's so damn weird. I mean, this didn't come out of the blue did it? There were planning meetings for this pipeline right?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:14 pm to cokebottleag
So they aren't getting along with their new brothers and sisters such as Smells Like arse, Drinks Like Fish, and Listens To shite?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:15 pm to teke184
Don't forget Dances Like A Prick, he is there too.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:15 pm to cokebottleag
How awesome would the world be without hippies and millennials
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:16 pm to crazy4lsu
The plans were on display. It was on display at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:17 pm to Honest Tune
I was going to say Dances With Faghags too.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:19 pm to FooManChoo
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They have no meaning in their lives. Makes them feel like better people than they are.
This. They are abject failures and outcasts from normal society so they claim moral superiority and meaning by "protesting" things that the normal people who have shunned them do.
It lets them tell themselves "I may be a loser but I have lost because I refuse to play this corrupt and disgusting game." When in reality they're just losers. Period.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:20 pm to cokebottleag
plus its all a scam
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:20 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's so damn weird. I mean, this didn't come out of the blue did it? There were planning meetings for this pipeline right?
Depends who you ask. The law is clear that in order to do this type of work the federal agency overseeing this work (in this case the army corps of engineers) you need to talk to everyone, including local experts about digging near sacred burial sites, etc. The DAPL only talked to like one tribe apparently on one small piece of the area and the experts they talked to were all out of state. To be fair, these people probably gave the green light because they honestly didn't really know what they were talking about.
In short, they tried to do the bare minimum to get this thing through, any reasonable person can see that. It's an interesting case, both sides have reasonable cases that could win.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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The protests might also give the false impression that Native American tribes had no input to the project. The public record shows that they did. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers held 389 meetings with 55 tribes to discuss the Dakota Access Pipeline. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe met with the corps nearly a dozen times to discuss archaeological issues and to help finalize the pipeline’s route.
That route was determined with the help of tremendous public input. Project leaders participated in 559 meetings with community leaders, elected officials and organizations in areas surrounding the Dakota Access Pipeline. To collect public input, 29 open houses, public meetings and regulatory hearings were held throughout the four states where the pipeline travels.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:21 pm to mwade91383
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The DAPL only talked to one tribe apparently on one small piece of the area and the experts they talked to were all out of state.
False.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:37 pm to the808bass
I recall a conversation with my uncle in Alaska over pipelines and reservations. He worked for the dept of the interior, and had a lot of meetings and projects concerning indian land.
I'll paraphrase his take on this:
The tribes don't give a shite if they build the pipelines or whatever else you want to build. They have a playbook that they typically run, which is to stonewall any construction and force as lengthy an Eminent Domain court proceeding as possible. They then will come and effectively solicit a bribe for them to go away, with compensation for the land rights and their bribe in tow.
Every once in a while, the government or company will call their bluff, and wait them out through the courts. That's what has happened here. The Standing Rock tribe listened to the wrong medicine man.
I'll paraphrase his take on this:
The tribes don't give a shite if they build the pipelines or whatever else you want to build. They have a playbook that they typically run, which is to stonewall any construction and force as lengthy an Eminent Domain court proceeding as possible. They then will come and effectively solicit a bribe for them to go away, with compensation for the land rights and their bribe in tow.
Every once in a while, the government or company will call their bluff, and wait them out through the courts. That's what has happened here. The Standing Rock tribe listened to the wrong medicine man.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:47 pm to cokebottleag
no shite, this is all about money or more accurately the lack thereof.
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