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re: Pro tip for the vaccine evangelists

Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39451 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:04 am to
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Hell...I took it months ago, but I swear had I not taken it then this huge overzealous push would have likely made me dig in my heels and refuse to take it now.


When they started offering cash, lotto tickets, alcohol, etc... for free vaccines, I got very skeptical.

Why should we trust these people? All they've EVER done is lie to us and everything they said about this pandemic has proven to be wrong.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41111 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:07 am to
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If you want more people to get the vaccine, shut the frick up about it.

The harder you push, and the more scare tactics you attempt, the least likely the unvaccinated are to take it.


This x100000000
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:18 am to
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If you want more people to get the vaccine, shut the frick up about it.


I mean I get where you are coming from but cmon now. The best way to get people to do something is to stop talking about it and pushing it? Really?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15893 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:38 am to
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The best way to get people to do something is to stop talking about it and pushing it? Really?

It couldn't work any worse than the clumsy and creepy messaging that Democrats have tried.

Why would someone on the fence be swayed to take the vaccine now when the left still wants masks and shutdowns?
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:55 am to
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But there is childish petulance amongst many


You coulda just stopped there.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46058 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:37 am to
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Basic rule of human nature, people don’t like being told what to do.


This is practically 100% true…..except in the case of American Marxist drones who want an authoritarian Marxist government to rule over them.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:38 am to
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It's more than "...because I tell you to."

Youre like the idiots standing on the Vegas strip handing out hooker cards. We try to ignore you, then politely say "No Thanks", BUT YOU JUST WONT STOP!! Following, harassing, all they way down to the next corner. Just stop, we dont want your hookers. No matter how much you tell us that we need to try it

The UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and has more deaths per capita than the US. Israel, also, more vaccinated than us, reports today that Pfizer is down to 39% confidence level
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A full course of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was just 39% effective at preventing infections and 41% effective at preventing symptomatic infections caused by the Delta Covid-19 variant, according to Israel’s health ministry, down from early estimates of 64% two weeks ago.

Forbes

Sweden went full herd immunity, and it worked

LET IT GO. Your side has been wrong from the beginning, masks, lockdowns, school closures, HCQ, and now vaccine confidence
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:39 am to
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Biden administration’s open border policy allows hundreds of thousands of untested, unvaccinated illegal aliens from mainly 3rd world countries all over the world To pour in and are spread throughout the US. Do wonder there is a surge in Covid cases.



Gotta close down the border with Canada though
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:41 am to
The vaccine messaging has been horrible

But choosing not to do something out of some prideful made up team a vs team b, even something where you see data showing its usefullness, is one of the most illogical stubborn things I have seen

Its pretty much the equivalent of the covidians that refused to give up their masks and fear even in the face of data
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:43 am to
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But choosing not to do something out of some prideful made up team a vs team b, even something where you see data showing its usefullness, is one of the most illogical stubborn things I have seen

Point me to the data showing the vaccines are useful for the over 100 million Americans with natural immunity.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:43 am to
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If you want more people to get the vaccine, shut the frick up about it.

The harder you push, and the more scare tactics you attempt, the least likely the unvaccinated are to take it.



Just proves how emotionally retarded anti-vax lunatics are.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:44 am to
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100 million Americans with natural immunity.


huh
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:51 am to
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When they started offering cash, lotto tickets, alcohol, etc... for free vaccines, I got very skeptical.

Why should we trust these people? All they've EVER done is lie to us and everything they said about this pandemic has proven to be wrong.


For me it's the complete ignoring of any commodities and personal health issues by officials. Of the varying things which people had some control over, it was known VERY early on that excess weight was a huge contributing factor in those that got sicker. At NO POINT was there ever any huge national coordinated push for everyone to try and get down to a healthier weight and to get into shape.

Imagine 1940's America and their Victory Gardens and collecting scrap metal. If they found out that there was a virus that was disproportionately killing fat people (not that there were many then, but for argument's sake) it would have been a National Emergency to get Americans healthier. This should have been THE motivating factor everyone got on board with during the lockdown. It should have been encouraged, not demanded...but it should have been explained how much healthier you'd be and how the statistics were showing that people at a healthier weight were doing better if/when they caught it.

But, because it's taboo to suggest that there's even anything like a "healthy weight" this was completely ignored in favor of the vaccine being the only possible solution to every problem. And keep in mind, I'm not suggesting the vaccines aren't working...but there's been an obvious disinterest in even pretending there were any other possibilities for survival other than lockdowns, masks made of old t-shirts, Plexiglas and vaccines.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11080 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:53 am to
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The Karen’s are demanding I get vaxed, and if I tell you to mind your business that is “stomping my feet”?

My main reason I’m not getting the jab is I’m 39, healthy, and probably have already had it. 99.7% survivability is not something that concerns me.


It's really 10 times better than you posted.

quote:

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%
— RickLeventhalFoxNews (@RickLeventhal) September 25, 2020


Flu estimated death rate is .01- .02%
Or 99.99 - 99.98 SURVIVAL RATE

Hum.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:33 pm to
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100 million Americans with natural immunity.
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huh


The CDC projects that there are well over 100 million Americans that have had the virus. They all have natural immunity going forward, so why the need for this third of all Americans to get vaccinated?
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6455 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:45 pm to
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These fascists ultimately don't care who is vaccinated or not. They just want control.

Case in point:
-Super low vaccination rate amongst blacks (who, unbelievably cling tight to masks)
-Super low vaccination rate amongst hispanics.
-NO vaccination required for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens flooding our borders and being sprinkled throughout the country.

But whitey conservative who stands up and says I don't choose to take your vaccine is the boogeyman.

You people are being taken for a ride.


I chose to get the vaccine, but your points are correct. I just want people to be informed, talk to the doctor, make the choice that is right for them, and be tolerant of those who choose differently. Tolerance, however, is in short supply these days.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:48 pm to
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The CDC projects that there are well over 100 million Americans that have had the virus. They all have natural immunity going forward, so why the need for this third of all Americans to get vaccinated?



We only have 34 million confirmed.

We cannot properly identify how many people:

a) have had covid
b) still have any natural antibodies
c) still have enough antibodies to fight off any re-infection.

Natural antibodies are significantly less uniform and more unpredictable.

Vaccinations are easy to count and much more predictable.

This should be like 3rd grade science.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:57 pm to
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This should be like 3rd grade science.

There is nothing associated with the Covid shitshow that hasn't been.

Science says only the very old, very obese, or those with multiple serious comorbidities need to get the vaccine, but here you/yours are cheerleading for the vaccination of tens of millions of people that don't need it.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:34 pm to
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thousands of unvaccinated


Agreed, get them vaccinated!
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:53 pm to
I believe there should be a government issued rfid chip that people who have been vaccinated should receive to help differentiate them from non vaccinated people. Insert it in the left ear lobe.

I also believe vaccinated people should wear masks everywhere to help them recognize each other and know that they are safe.

Finally we should create “safe states” for vaccinated people. Places like California, Oregon, and Washington should only be allowed to vaccinated individuals, with the exception of homeless, minorities, and illegals. The states should buy any non vaccinated individuals property or business at 2x fair market value to help remove them from the state.

It’s really the only way.
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