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Prior meetings and agreements with dprk

Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:16 am
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3000 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:16 am
Carter met Kim Il Sung first.

Clinton signed huge deal with the scumbags in 1994

Obama signed deal with them in 2012.

This isn't new. They agree to deals to get aide never intending to honor it.

They can't be trusted. Please.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:17 am to
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. They agree to deals to get aide never intending to honor


What aid?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39947 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:18 am to
They already released three hostages, that would’ve never happened with prior admin’s.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3000 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:19 am to
Tons of grain mostly to feed their starved population
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:20 am to
None worked from this stand point. THIS is why the left will not see a blue wave.



You people are hypocrites and want nothing more than power without earning it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:20 am to
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They can't be trusted. Please.




What is your plan?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:20 am to
What have we given up so far, exercises that's it.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77582 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:21 am to
Before people freak, this isn't a knock on Trump for what he's done. Leaders of NK have never proven they can be trusted. It's smart to be skeptical and vigilant with this country, regardless of what agreements have been signed.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3000 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:22 am to
Isolate them. Trump was on the right track. Keep the heat on. Step on their damn throats.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73592 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:22 am to
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Before people freak, this isn't a knock on Trump for what he's done


Just stop
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167245 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:25 am to
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Before people freak, this isn't a knock on Trump for what he's done



You can keep saying this all you want but we all know you, like all other progs this morning, are really upset Trump pulled this off.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48942 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:26 am to
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Carter met Kim Il Sung first.



Did he actually sit down with him to discuss a peace agreement? I don't think anything came of their talks.

quote:

Clinton signed huge deal with the scumbags in 1994


What was the "huge deal"? He tried to get them to agree to terms but they refused partly because how they were treated by the Bush administration and Clinton administration. This was like an 8 year ordeal wasnt it?

quote:

Obama signed deal with them in 2012.


I dont think this ever happened. Did you make it up?

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They can't be trusted. Please.


No kidding. So we should just quit trying?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12067 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:30 am to
Show me what aid they got










And then point to the doll and show me where Trump touched you.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:32 am to
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Isolate them. Trump was on the right track. Keep the heat on. Step on their damn throats.

The stick is in place, he just showed them the carrot, it's up to Un to make the right move.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68221 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:34 am to
Give it time. You listed a pack of pussies they knew they could walk over. Trump is different.

Same things happened with the USSR...UNTIL...a "reckless, wild cowboy" moved into the Oval Office.
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:39 am to
Put down the crack pipe boy. These previous agreements you speak of were agreements where NK got everything they wanted and then some, while giving up nothing in return.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68221 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:41 am to
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Carter met Kim Il Sung first.


Did he actually sit down with him to discuss a peace agreement? I don't think anything came of their talks.
Not true. Carter got them two nuclear reactors and a large amount of aid with Bill Clinton helping out.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51608 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:41 am to
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Clinton signed huge deal with the scumbags in 1994

Obama signed deal with them in 2012.

This isn't new. They agree to deals to get aide never intending to honor it.


The Clinton deal was basically "we're going to do x for you but we expect you to do y in return." We gave them a frickton of money and they never went through with their end.

The Obama deal may have worked out but neither side was really serious about the negotiation. Also, Obama did not have the demeanor to bring Kim to heel, which is a necessity with Kim's sort of mindset. Trump's bravado channeled the claims about Reagan leading up (and just prior) to the 1980 election that he would get us into WW3.

With a more nuanced leader you can make a legitimate "gentle giant" approach (which is what our foreign policy approach has pretty much been since HW, maybe even Reagan). Kim is not one of those, he sees that as a weakness. Kim is one of those dictators respect only someone with more power than they have themselves and who isn't afraid of using it against them.
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:53 am to
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Carter.. Clinton... Obama....

Hmmm, these 3 seem to have something in common... what could it be?
Oh yeah, 3 spineless anti-American liberals.
Unlike with these 3 arse clowns, breaking this deal will have consequences.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:56 am to
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They agree to deals to get aide never intending to honor it.

That's why you make them honor the deal BEFORE you pay them
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