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re: Price gouging laws shouldn’t exist

Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73273 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:53 pm to
I remeber during Katrina paying $20 for a case of coca cola. I didn't have to buy it but no one was open except for one store with a generator. It was price gouging but i didn't have to get it. The national guard was giving out water and MREs but i wanted sweetness. I also bought 150 gallons of gas at $3. Which i was more upset about in 2005.
Posted by RebRxV
Member since Oct 2022
486 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Just as our rights don’t expire due to a virus, the market doesn’t stop working due to a disaster.

You know, it's absolutely amazing how STUPID people can be when trying to prove a stupid thought. Part of capitalism as I have experienced it for ALL my 80 years is capitalists' compassion and generosity in the face of legitimate need and disaster. Providing assistance to true victims of disaster IS a part of the free market in my experience. Please stop being stupid.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9067 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:19 pm to
You have a Moose waiting for you.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13733 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:19 pm to
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apply if a disaster area has been declared


That's exactly the opposite of what should be done. If the most I can sell a generator in Baton Rouge for is 25% above the price listed on Home Depot's website, do you think me and every guy with a truck is going to buy every generator we can find in Houston and drive it over there?

So, with "gouging" rules, you don't get expanded supply, because you aren't letting prices adjust to demand. Let me charge $750 for a $250 generator, and I'll make that drive twice a day, and probably even rent a trailer to haul more at once.

Or, using your method, I'll just sit on my arse in the AC and watch you all suffer while watching TV, since it's not worth my time and effort.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1945 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Part of capitalism as I have experienced it for ALL my 80 years is capitalists' compassion and generosity in the face of legitimate need and disaster.


You are talking about charity, which is fine, but inferior to the profit motive IMO.

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9792 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:55 pm to
Having lived through several Hurricanes including a total house loss, the amount of scams is horrible. All of it is price gouging or just plain theft. County emergency response has to have this issue on their first day after the storm list.

I am not talking about a case of water for 10 bucks, but rather demo/clearing work for 10 thousand.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Higher prices also tamp down on hoarding tendencies by individuals so that more people have access to the goods.



Hoarding literally exists because of anticipated price gouging
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
290 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:03 pm to
Hotel has 100 rooms.
Big event in town.
Rates increase from $100 to $500 per night.
Only one quarter of rooms are booked.
Hotel kicks self.

What the market will bear.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:06 pm to
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So, with "gouging" rules, you don't get expanded supply, because you aren't letting prices adjust to demand. Let me charge $750 for a $250 generator, and I'll make that drive twice a day, and probably even rent a trailer to haul more at once.
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Correct. Anti "gouging" laws keep supplies lower, which means few people will benefit.

Letting the prices adjust to demand means suppliers will be motivated to increase units available for sale.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86539 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:16 pm to
6 posts in 2 pages. I think we get your position.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54009 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Let’s see how much you support Capitalism

The best way to ensure that needed goods reach the most number of people possible after a disaster is to allow people from outside the area to make as much profit as possible so as to entice them to get goods to the area.

Higher prices also tamp down on hoarding tendencies by individuals so that more people have access to the goods.

Just as our rights don’t expire due to a virus, the market doesn’t stop working due to a disaster.



Absolutely!

Bring back predatory lending too.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74558 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:30 pm to
One of the quickest and dumbest ways IMO

Local county and State are there for disaster relief. Putting off gouging for a few days or weeks is not the end of capitalism. Indeed in the time following disasters here in Florida capitalism and incentives are alway used by the Gov to speed up and bring in competition in the recovery process.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Putting off gouging for a few days or weeks is not the end of capitalism.


It keeps supply low. Is that what you really want:??
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5851 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:32 pm to
I mean, if you are going whole hog, why not say that the police are only going to provide safety to the people that pay the most. So let's see how much you support Capitalism.


Retarded thread is retarded. There aren't any people that support capitalism that don't recognize that essential needs during emergencies and war time have to be handled differently.

This whole thread is a red herring.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9713 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Price gouging laws shouldn’t exist


Says someone that would charge $60 for a loaf of bread or $25/gal of gas to people in real need.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13733 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:27 pm to
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charge $60 for a loaf of bread or $25/gal of gas

You do realize that this prevents hoarding, like we saw during COVID, with people pushing a shopping cart with 100 lbs of chicken or 65 rolls of toilet paper, right?
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Bring back predatory lending too.


That’s still a thing
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Says someone that would charge $60 for a loaf of bread


If you charge normal price, I'll buy all your bread, sell it across the street for double the price.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135806 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:32 pm to
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and complains all the way to Memphis
That's a lot of Walmart's she passed.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14302 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 4:11 pm to
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That's a lot of Walmart's she passed.

While true:
1- How does that change my point? She was only able to obtain them because her need matched the price. And perhaps another found the batteries she didn’t buy because of the price.
2- Have you ever evacuated? You’re in a column of locusts consuming supplies, food, fuel, and hotel rooms along specific corridors. I doubt you are the first to stop and look for batteries. They experienced 400 miles of bumper-to-bumper or heavy traffic of cars crammed with refugees with needs.
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