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re: President Trump has signed another executive order this time to cut trees in reserves .
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:49 am to Mr Cell Phone
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:49 am to Mr Cell Phone
It does not take 50 to 60 years for pine to grow to market size lol.
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:53 am to Tr33fiddy
More like 30 for Loblolly pines and typically you would thin a previous clear cut at 15-18 years to allow more vigorous trees to continue to maturity.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:53 am to Mr Cell Phone
As long as the trees arent being cutdown in National Parks for some type of legitimate reason. The US government owns a lot of land.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:53 am to SingleMalt1973
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As a person with a vested interest in timber prices let me tell you that we have been taking it up,the arse from Canada for about 30 years.
after 30 years of taking it in the arse, maybe you should leaf the industry
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 12:56 am
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:55 am to beaux duke
Naw, cause Pines have needles not true leaves.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:59 am to SingleMalt1973
pine by me
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:41 am to Mr Cell Phone
How can we be in a shortage for lumber? How is this possible in a nation this big, with terrain like ours?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:25 am to East Coast Band
"Will mean more eyesore unregulated clear cuts around here."
Where is here? Is "here" public owned land or private land?
Where is here? Is "here" public owned land or private land?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:55 am to Mr Cell Phone
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the problem there is not enough saw mills in operation and will take years to put in operation there is not even a long range plain .
I'm pretty sure a smart business guy could get a new saw mill going in a few months, not years. When there is money to be made there are plenty of motivated guys that will move heaven and earth to get it. That's the difference between government and the private sector.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 6:59 am
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:23 am to Ag Zwin
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Loggers tend to take seriously their job as stewards of the forests.
You're trolling aren't you?
Every clear cut around here in Alabama is done with complete recklessness.
They take every tree and leave a bunch of stumps, half cut up trees, scraggly underbrush, ruts in the mud, and ultimately leads to muddy runoff after pouring rains
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 6:24 am
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:26 am to Mr Cell Phone
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reserve land the problem there is not enough saw mills in operation
More of an issue caused by decades of prior sell outs.
Also could have been using hemp for products we cut trees down for that’s not lumber. Takes less time to grow.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 6:29 am
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:31 am to Mr Cell Phone
Link please
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:47 am to Mr Cell Phone
No kidding.
It’s almost like Elon/Trump didn’t think this through.
It’s almost like Elon/Trump didn’t think this through.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:51 am to Mr Cell Phone
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stage brush
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:21 am to Neutral Underground
Colorado could use some logging. There’s a lot of old and dead trees sitting in the forest that either needs to burn up in a fire or be taken away. I’m assuming a lot of national parks are the same way. The logging of course needs to be done sustainably, ie not a clear cut, but I’m not opposed in theory.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:23 am to Mr Cell Phone
Reminds me of Biden depleting oil reserve bc of sanctions on bad actors.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:29 am to Mr Cell Phone
We shouldn’t have closed those U.S saw mills in the first place.
And now we will be rebuilding them because domestic manufacturing
Don’t you care about national security?
Don’t you love America?
And now we will be rebuilding them because domestic manufacturing
Don’t you care about national security?
Don’t you love America?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:30 am to Mr Cell Phone
It's an asset sell off .... no different than the general market.
The Federal government overspent and overprinted .... devaluing both our credit and our currency..
Don't be angry at POTUS, .... be angry at the thieves in Congress who performed those acts and enriched themselves in the process.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:36 am to Ag Zwin
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Loggers tend to take seriously their job as stewards of the forests
I am not in the timber industry (we are "pine farmers"), but my father and I went to an Ag Extension field day at Cat Island with a bunch of folks in the timber business. Really sharp business people who care more than "environmentalists".
Environmentalists only care about their feelings now, these people care about the Forrest 100 years from now
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:36 am to beaux duke
quote:depends on how it is executed.
i'm stumped why he would order this
You can't chirp at Newsome about failed land management and not manage our own national forests properly.
That's my guess if these cuts are going to be "managed" with conservation as a goal AND supplying timber to make up for Canadian shortfalls
Both CAN be true (conservation and economic benefit), will they be is the question.
Besides, it is a renewable resource and with global warming and all this CO2 in the air they should grow even faster (that's sarcasm)
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