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re: POTUS Unilaterally Declares U.S. is in “Armed Conflict” With Cartels - Constitutional?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:22 am to Rip Torn
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:22 am to Rip Torn
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Libertarians are worse than Democrats
And they parade around as conservatives here.
They are not. While we have somethings in common, the parts not compatible is the open border, the only fight back if we are invaded by another nation, and the free flow of whatever drugs they want.
None of that is compatible with with a civil society. On paper, its a euphoric state. In reality its a collapse of the society.
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:26 am to Rip Torn
Yes. Fentanyl is shipped in base material to Mexico and San Salvador. If any makes its way that far east it's not for US consumption in any appreciable amount. If I'm a fentanyl smuggler why would I trust using routes across open water through a circuit out route when I can ship to Mexico and my costs are much less to get it to the desired market?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:28 am to Jjdoc
You Trumpkins certainly are not conservatives. Hell, Trump is not a conservative
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:30 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Yeah. Dangerous to drug cartels.
I’m always amazed by the shortsightedness and general stupidity of the average voter.
The POTUS should not have the ability to unilaterally declare war and execute civilians in the course of said ‘war’ without any judicial review. Just because ‘your’ guy is doing this for a cause that you deem correct, the next guy might not.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:33 am to RFK
You are getting down voted but you are correct. Deploying the military to US cities not named DC is a slippery slope as well.
Trump is not a Republican or conservative. Is he the better alternative to any Democrat? Yes.
Is he created and/or affirming bad
precedent? 100%.
Trump is not a Republican or conservative. Is he the better alternative to any Democrat? Yes.
Is he created and/or affirming bad
precedent? 100%.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:33 am to RFK
Thomas Jefferson first used US power to get back at Pirates in the Mediterranean Sea over 200 years ago.
Is what Trump doing similar use of presidential powers? I think so.
Is what Trump doing similar use of presidential powers? I think so.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:36 am to RFK
The cartels were created by the CIA. Was that constitutional? I pray POTUS Trump ends the cartels all and simultaneously, with strikes timed to hit everywhere at once.
Far too many people in the USA have been killed and lives disrupted from the products provided by the illegal cartels. It must end now and not ever rear its face again!!
Far too many people in the USA have been killed and lives disrupted from the products provided by the illegal cartels. It must end now and not ever rear its face again!!
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:38 am to RFK
It's disingenuous and pathetic for an American to care more about filthy drug dealers and gang members than their own fellow citizens.
How beta is it that you'd rather continue to allow all ages of Americans killed by these low-life scum, than have it handled in the most efficient manner possible?
The left is only concerned with checks and balances when it conflicts directly with their misdirection and faulty ideologies. frick anybody on here that runs to the Constitution or cites Presidential powers to make an argument against exterminating the demon vermin infiltrating this great nation with their physical presence, or their drugs.
Cartels...Kill 'em all!
How beta is it that you'd rather continue to allow all ages of Americans killed by these low-life scum, than have it handled in the most efficient manner possible?
The left is only concerned with checks and balances when it conflicts directly with their misdirection and faulty ideologies. frick anybody on here that runs to the Constitution or cites Presidential powers to make an argument against exterminating the demon vermin infiltrating this great nation with their physical presence, or their drugs.
Cartels...Kill 'em all!
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:44 am to KiwiHead
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Why Venezuela then?
Everyone seems to be forgetting that we have evidence that the Venezuelan government directly ordered TdA to attack the US and shipped them here to do just that.
The Mexican and Colombian governments have not done such a thing in the same manner. They are more likely to take orders from the cartels.
TdA also caused an uproar by taking over apartment complexes in the US. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. MS-13 is the other terrorist organization that gets the attention, but Bukele has them handled.
This is also a common complaint with conservatives. They are never happy unless they get everything their way immediately. "Why did Trump lower taxes for the bottom 50% but not everyone right away?" "Why did Trump eliminate that waste but not all waste?"
People don't understand that sometimes you just have to start somewhere. You can't attack every problem at once so you just pick one, and you can't always resolve the entire issue so you pick a focal point. This naturally leads conservatives to participate in their favorite pastime, complaining.
It's really not difficult to understand that if you are going after the cartels, Venezuela is a good start due to their leadership. Trying to find a way to criticize Trump for choosing this terrorist group first is just a waste of time. It's always the same group of characters, too. The ones who are never happy unless they are spreading their own misery.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:46 am to RFK
The War on Drugs 2.0(tm) is a different one, huh?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:49 am to RelicBatches86
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Pentagon officials could not provide a list of the designated terrorist organizations at the center of the conflict
It always works out when we enter a war with no defined enemy.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:51 am to Aubie Spr96
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Just because ‘your’ guy is doing this for a cause that you deem correct, the next guy might not.
If your guy is ever in office and starts killing bad guys, he can expect my support. Should I be concerned that your guy might kill good guys?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:58 am to Bunk Moreland
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Yeah, I did a similar thread a few weeks back when people were cheering that Trump was smoking boats off the coast of South America.
Same people that think politics is all about memes.
Cheerleaders with little actual knowledge.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:59 am to The Maj
If you wanted to make a real dent, then the Pacific coast is where you concentrate.......not small time smuggling of the eastern coast of Venezuela 1500 + miles away. While you are sinking Paco and his little speed boats. Cali is using submarines and fishing fleets along the Pacific coast and Diego in Mexico picking up base material for fentanyl at customs warehouses in Puerto Vallarta
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:12 am to KiwiHead
I deal with fentanyl overdoses on a nearly daily basis. It is only becoming more common not less. There isn’t a bigger threat to the healthcare system in large urban areas outside of delinquents. It gets into the US through many different means including the mail and illegal immigrants. It will never be fully stopped but criticizing a US president for trying to stop it is one of many reasons why Libertarians are never taken seriously or win major elections
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:15 am to Aubie Spr96
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I’m always amazed by the shortsightedness and general stupidity of the average voter.
The POTUS should not have the ability to unilaterally declare war and execute civilians in the course of said ‘war’ without any judicial review. Just because ‘your’ guy is doing this for a cause that you deem correct, the next guy might not.
Judicial review for war? And you are calling others stupid. Get your head out of your arse.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:17 am to KiwiHead
Because goofballs like you vote in California and try to stop Trump at every turn. They would form human shields or some other goofy crap. You fail to grasp how destructive the Left is
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:18 am to RFK
quote:This is 20 years late. Every legislator should be in favor of this.
POTUS Unilaterally Declares U.S. is in “Armed Conflict” With Cartels - Constitutional?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:21 am to DeltaDoc
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Deploying the military to US cities not named DC is a slippery slope as well.
it is a slippery slope that has been done before - relatively recently for that matter. Democratic Governors Barnett, Faubus, and Wallace agree with the Democrats today that the National Guard should not be sent to protect citizens when the local refuse to do so, but it still was done.
quote:
You are getting down voted but you are correct.
Precedent has shown that he is not correct. Further, as someone pointed out earlier in the thread - if Congress has a problem with it then it is their responsibility to act.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:23 am to RFK
War on Drugs
[On]off
Nancy Reagan smiles from the grave. We'll win it this time. Possibly. Maybe.??
[On]off
Nancy Reagan smiles from the grave. We'll win it this time. Possibly. Maybe.??
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