re: POTUS Trump says 'we do not need a deal with Iran... we've got their Strait...'

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Please do tell us about the 15 strikes over the past 5 weeks.

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Tankers burn in the Middle East despite hopes for de-escalation

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Nov 11 (Reuters) - In the Strait of Hormuz, tankers are still ablaze, oil spills are washing ashore and drones and missiles strike infrastructure across the region, despite expectations of a de-escalation reflected in falling oil prices.

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At least 10 ships were hit in the first 10 days of November, after 37 attacks in October, the highest monthly tally since the conflict began, according to data from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

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That isn't moving the goalposts. That's saying that the Democrats are going to "win", but that it'll be challenged. And it will.



So no, I wasn't wrong. So far it's tracking right along as it should.

And notice there that isn't saying that they'll "win" in Texas. But across the entire country.

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Seems to me that this is Trump subtly dressing down JD Vance in public by saying his efforts failed.

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Trump is trying to save some face amidst the organized campaign (on the right) against Vance.

It's pretty insane. You have a big swath of the establishment right out here claiming the MOU lost us the election. Which is beyond gaslighting.

We all talked about on the day of JD's tweet that he might be on borrowed time with POTUS - I don't really think that reflects much about Trump's actual feelings. But if the pressure mounts that Trump "failed" on Iran he's going to scapegoat someone and JD is right there under attack already by people on the outskirts of MAGA.

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That’s what’s called moving the goal posts.

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No, it isn't. Why do you feel the need to lie? You said I was, "wrong about the election." No, I just showed you my opinion on the election PRIOR TO the election taking place and clearly said that the Democrats would "win" across the entire country. And I claimed that it will be contested. That isn't being wrong about the election. That is me accurately saying that the Democrats would "win" across the entire country.

I not only wasn't wrong, I predicted the "landslide."

Dumbass. This is the problem with you trolls. I'm not sure you people even understand what the frick you are looking at when you see typed words on a screen. I'm not sure you can read.

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Dumbass. This is the problem with you trolls.

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Trumpanican

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Well I'm clearly not the only one who read Trump's Truth Social post and saw that it was a clear kick to the nuts. He clearly removed JD Vance from Foreign Policy in a very public manner.

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Sure, the question is why?

Is it because Trump got had by Vance? The Vance who objected to the war, and then was mildly rebuked by being assigned the MOU task with no leverage, the one that Trump blessed all along until Vance, seeing the need for the break, publicly noted his disagreement on Iran?

It’s insanely expensive to go through the strait now not to mention the danger. It’s not sustainable.

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Are you retarded? The blockade is still in place.

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Are YOU retarded? I didn't say it would be a full stop. I said *much* more. And I was mostly talking about whether or not we would continue bombing them. I figured that was obvious. Especially when the question Trump is screaming at Netanyahu about is whether or not we can continue to drop bombs or reach a diplomatic solution. From what it sounds like, coming from both the US and Israeli side of things, the US' part in the bombing campaign is finished or will soon be finished. Israel says they're going to continue regardless.

Trump told y'all this from the very beginning. He said we could walk away from it at any point we want. And we can. Other than stopping Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons, the main objective in this ordeal, despite what anyone from the administration says outright, is being able to degrade Iran's capabilities to the point that other regional powers can step up and run the show in the region so the US can divest itself from middle east entanglements. Iran has been a problem in that part of the world for a long time now and that's coming to an end. Hezbollah, Hamas, all of them. Their time is finished.

Trump is right. We do not need a deal with Iran. It would have been nicer if they had made a deal, but if they don't want to, that's fine. We will just frick them up (check) and cut off their money (check.) frick 'em. They had their chance.

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I guess the nuke threat is over?

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No, it's just at the bottom of a few stories of rubble.

They'll eventually dig it out and start over.

In a few years.

We’ve gone from a deal any second to “we don’t need no stinking deal”.

Ugh.