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re: Popular Christian Singer Lauren Daigle Not Sure If Homosexuality Is A Sin...
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not all christians believe this
Let's keep the Methodists out of this.
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:01 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Is there no room for discussion? Doubt?
Yes. This is what we do here. Doubt? Of course, for understanding brings strength of faith.
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It seems healthy to be able to discuss it in a reasonable way without "judging" the 'belief' nor the 'sinner'.
Judge not anyone, for you and I will be judged similarly. Questioning her knowledge and wisdom at her young age is permissible and expected.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:03 am to Dale Murphy
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Let's keep the Methodists out of this.
I think there are two lesbian Methodist ministers in town
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:04 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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So, heterosexuality is a sin?
As Zach said above - you appear to judge the sex act and not the desire.
Is BEING a hetero sinful? Or, just the act of sex outside of marriage?
Nothing quite like a PoliBoard religious thread to make you understand how folks come up with such horribly reasoned positions on the non-religious issues...it's illuminating.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:04 am to OTIS2
I see the Catholic clergy are up in this...
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:05 am to TigerAxeOK
I’d use Romans which proves it’s still true with the New Covenant because Leviticus also says some things that don’t ring true anymore.
I just find it interesting that Homosexuality is the one thing that people get overly upset about. Few people get upset about not loving others well, never letting unwholesome talk come out of your mouth, sex with a significant other of the opposite sex before marriage or even things like jealousy.
They’re all sin, but how do we approach that in a way that doesn’t put off nonbelievers while still making sure we hold true what the Bible actually says.
I just find it interesting that Homosexuality is the one thing that people get overly upset about. Few people get upset about not loving others well, never letting unwholesome talk come out of your mouth, sex with a significant other of the opposite sex before marriage or even things like jealousy.
They’re all sin, but how do we approach that in a way that doesn’t put off nonbelievers while still making sure we hold true what the Bible actually says.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:06 am to TBoy
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TBoy
A reasonable person
You just want to be perfect by redefining what sin is...
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:07 am to Esquire
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moron
You
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:07 am to BestBanker
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Judge not anyone, for you and I will be judged similarly
I judge everyone...I pass sentence on no one...
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:08 am to IceTiger
She also said this:
That’s a fine stance.
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I just say read the Bible and find out for yourself. And when you find out let me know, because I'm learning, too."
That’s a fine stance.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:08 am to Dawgsontop34
By loving the person and not the sin. That's how.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:09 am to anc
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She's beautiful. She has a beautiful voice.
This isn't a pooh post (though you might take it as that).
But you really think she has a good voice?
Look I am past 50. I guess my formative years were in the 70's.
I just listened to two of her songs. I don't think she could have had a professional career pre-1980. She just has no voice talent.
Look there are some modern performers with great voices. Anyone from Post Modern Jukebox for example.
But this woman - there's nothing there. It's like they used autotune and that was all they got?
This is a great voice, whether the artist sucked dicks or not:
LINK
I actually think a lot of the women from Post Modern Jukebox could do the same level of performance on a song.
But this Lauren Daigle - it's not that she isn't in the same ballpark. She can't even see the ballpark from where she is.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:10 am to Dawgsontop34
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I just find it interesting that Homosexuality is the one thing that people get overly upset about.
I often wondered why nobody ever brought up banning divorce when we were protecting the sanctity of marriage.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:11 am to Dawgsontop34
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I just say read the Bible and find out for yourself
Very reasonable.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:12 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Where did "adultery" come from? I thought she said homosexuality.
The Bible is as clear about homosexuality being a sin as it is adultery, but no one disputes that cheating on your spouse is a sin. Daigle is substituting political correctness for biblical word.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:12 am to Dawgsontop34
Dawg, I think the answer lies in the fact that there is a concerted effort to have that one sin nullified.
There is no debate about the sinfulness of lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, etc. There is debate about homosexuality and homosexual acts.
The gays don't want to be told that what they do is sinful, and, in fact, many want the church to approve and glorify what they do.
That's where the pushback comes into play from from traditional Christians.
There is no debate about the sinfulness of lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, etc. There is debate about homosexuality and homosexual acts.
The gays don't want to be told that what they do is sinful, and, in fact, many want the church to approve and glorify what they do.
That's where the pushback comes into play from from traditional Christians.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:13 am to Dawgsontop34
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I just find it interesting that Homosexuality is the one thing that people get overly upset about. Few people get upset about not loving others well, never letting unwholesome talk come out of your mouth, sex with a significant other of the opposite sex before marriage or even things like jealousy.
They’re all sin, but how do we approach that in a way that doesn’t put off nonbelievers while still making sure we hold true what the Bible actually says.
it's really mind blowing how much Christians lose their shite over homosexuality. I think gay sex with man or woman is sin. so is the fact that i struggle with lust... or overeating... or pride... or selfishness... or anger in the car over bad drivers... or... whatever.
If you're a christian, they are all what separates you from Christ no matter how big or small. To act like somebody who has homosexual sex is worse than somebody sleeping with somebody that you're not married to or cheating your taxes, or being racist is asinine.
But so is trying to say this thing that is very clearly laid out as sin in the Old Testament and New isn't sin.
I agree the church has made too much of homosexuality, but to backtrack and say it's not sin isn't the right answer.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:15 am to TigerAxeOK
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If she doesn't understand this
I don't understand.
First of all, who is this Malek person?
Second of all:
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Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman
I have sexual relations with a woman by putting it right in the pussy. If two men have buttsecks with each other, they are not having sexual relations with each other as they would with a woman. So it appears that doesn't really address the issue of whether or not homosex is a sin.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:17 am to tankyank13
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Sex outside of marriage is adultry.
Additionally, oral sex is sodomy.
I think the take-away from all this is that it's not a good idea to turn to the bible for sex education.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:17 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Is there no room for discussion? Doubt?
She isn't being heretical (in my view). She just "wonders" if the interpretation is correct.
Some Christian denominations think makeup is sin, divorce is sin, clergy can / cannot marry, speak in tongues vs not, etc.
It seems healthy to be able to discuss it in a reasonable way without "judging" the 'belief' nor the 'sinner'.
You are, by far, the most reasonable "common sense" poster on this board.
How have you not been run off yet?
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