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re: Polish F.M threatens they’ll deny Trump Nobel Peace Prize even if he ends Ukraine War

Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18197 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:17 am to
Fvck em.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75480 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:17 am to
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Anne Applebaum

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26370 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:17 am to
I wish the Polish govt would make up their mind on if they are going to be for the good of their people or not. On the one hand they didn't let their country get overrun by muslims. On the other hand they seem to be pushing war with Russia and lots of little crap ideas like this.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5073 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:18 am to
I wonder if the Nobel Peace committee realizes how worthless their award has become? It's now nothing more now than a radical leftist medal.
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
1180 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:19 am to
Who gives a frick what this arse hat thinks? Unless it's AMERICA FIRST, I don't give a fuuuuuuukkkkk.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:19 am to
Lions, tigers, & bears, Oh My!
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17382 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:28 am to
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Did this cuck really say that the credibility of the USA depends on this?


How about we just let Putin have your entire fricking continent? We saved your continent from at least one dictator already and rebuilt for you afterwards. You want to talk about our credibility? How about just saying Thank You and then shutting the frick up?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116820 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:51 am to
Did Greta Thunberg win one yet? Let's give her another one anyway.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6012 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:55 am to
They are welcome to invade Russia with the vaunted Euro Force if they feel that passionately about it
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17709 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:56 am to
I thought the Pollocks were cool now. WTF is this?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28474 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:58 am to
It's amazing to me how corrupt these world leaders are.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5451 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:58 am to
Great. What’s next, Trump not getting in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36080 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:58 am to
If he sells out NATO, he won't have to even worry about being nominated.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44261 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:59 am to
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The Nobel prize is worth less than an mtv music award. A pile of shite


Actually you get paid just over a million dollars if you win one.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8884 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:01 am to
Oh no, not the Nobel.

Well, DJT better tell Vlad “forget it” and get another billion to Z pronto.

No point in ending things if they aren’t even going to give DJT a Nobel.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36080 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:13 am to
You don't know or have ever spoken to any Poles have you? They hate Russians more than Germans....and they don't have much love for Germans.

Russians were not overly kind when they were part of Mother Russia prior to WWI and then got split up by Addie and Joe during WWI and then had to deal with KGB types in the aftermath of WWII. They aren't fans of the Germans either, but prior to Hitler, they did not have a problem with Germans historically.

Eastern and Central Europeans like to say of the US when it comes to them and Russia. " You have an idea of what the Russians can do, We have a memory of what the DID do."
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10477 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:23 am to
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You don't know or have ever spoken to any Poles have you? They hate Russians more than Germans....and they don't have much love for Germans.


This is definitely true. They are tolerant of Germans because Germans built most of their nicer cities
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1744 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:28 am to
I say he ends the war, gets Ukraine into NATO, removes the US from NATO, and then tells Europe “Good Luck”
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:34 am to
LSE - "The EU’s continued trade with Russia undermines its support for Ukraine

The EU has implemented a series of sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine. Yet as Ousmène Jacques Mandeng argues, the EU’s response to the war has been undermined by the level of trade many EU states continue to do with Russia.

The European Union has launched a series of measures to contain Russia following its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Yet, the effectiveness and extent of these measures remain in doubt.

The EU has a cumulative merchandise trade deficit with Russia of US$120 billion since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine or 5 percent of Russia’s annual GDP. This net transfer of resources to Russia is in stark contrast to the EU’s rhetoric, which claims that it will “remain determined to keep acting to further reduce Russia’s sources of revenue and capacity to wage war”. The EU’s approach to Russia is self-defeating and risks prolonging the war.
Why trade balance matters

Trade balance is a measure of the transfer of net resources from one country to another. The greater the deficit vis-à-vis one country, think of the US-China trade deficit disputes, the more the deficit country transfers resources to its trading partner.

While Russia’s foreign exchange reserves had been frozen in March 2022, the cumulative net transfer from the EU has allowed Russia to rebuild a large proportion of foreign financial resources. International banks show an increase in cross-border liabilities vis-à-vis residents of Russia from US$155 billion in March 2022 to US$254 billion in March 2024. This may also explain why Russia’s economy has been doing relatively well.

The EU’s trade deficit with Russia has been declining since March 2022, but it took unduly long and EU member countries’ efforts differ significantly. It took one year to decline from a post-pandemic peak deficit of US$19.5 billion in March 2022 to a surplus of US$0.7 billion in March 2023. In January-May 2024, the average trade deficit with Russia of Hungary was still US$0.3 billion and of Slovakia US$0.4 billion per month.
Explaining the trade deficit

The EU’s trade deficit with Russia is largely due to its persistent mineral fuel imports. EU cumulative mineral fuel imports from Russia since March 2022 through May 2024 amount to US$166 billion. They fell from an average of US$10.6 billion per month during January-May 2019 to US$2.0 billion per month or 19 percent of their pre-war level.

Yet, the decline is not universal. Belgium still imports 54 percent of its pre-war level, Spain 58 percent, the Czech Republic 77 percent, Slovakia 88 percent and Hungary 138 percent. In contrast, Germany imports only 1 percent of its pre-war level.

Russian gas still enjoys high imports at 83 percent of pre-war levels. In January-May 2024, Belgium and the Netherlands were importing more than two times more Russian gas than prior to the war and Spain seven times. Hungary, the largest importer of Russian gas in the EU, imported nearly double the amount in January-May 2024 compared with January-May 2019.

Recent observations that India has ramped up mineral fuel imports from Russia have been met with considerable concern. India indeed increased mineral fuel imports from Russia during January and May 2019 from an average of US$0.3 billion per month to US$3.9 billion per month during January and May 2024.
A contradictory approach

The EU’s stance vis-à-vis Russia contradicts its ambitions. Blaming India for financing Russia through mineral fuel imports is the right thing to do. It serves as a reminder how important it is to curtail imports from Russia.

Maintaining stable levels of imports amid possible structural constraints related to pipeline and refinery layouts is one thing but ramping up imports is quite another. To argue that changing existing dependencies from Russia would be too costly is to underestimate greatly the enormous humanitarian and economic costs of war.

The EU’s piece-meal approach – the EU is on its 14th sanction package against Russia – has endowed Russia with significant sources of revenue it can use to continue fighting the war. The EU demands its citizens provide resources to support Ukraine on the one hand while it continues to tolerate huge net transfers to Russia on the other hand.

Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the EU claims to have supported Ukraine through financial and military assistance with US$121 billion. During that period, the EU has cumulated a trade deficit with Russia of the same amount. This cannot possibly be a sensible approach to support Ukraine and reduce Russia’s capacity to wage war.

Note: This article gives the views of the author, not the position of EUROPP – European Politics and Policy or the London School of Economics.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16729 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:36 am to
Oh no. Im sure that will break Trumps heart.
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