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re: Please...Explain to me how DeSantis is not part of the establishment. Not being accusatory

Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:18 pm to
At least he doesn't hock nft's and lies to scam people out of their money.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:19 pm to
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At least he doesn't hock nft's and lies to scam people out of their money.
So is he running?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:20 pm to
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Can you point to the specific legislative positions that he has advanced that makes you believe he is part of the “Establishment?”


No I cannot. That is why I asked the question.

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Populism is great for fighting known threats. It’s not great at identifying threats. It just ends up with Danton on the guillotine.



Agree
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7093 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:21 pm to
I will reply:

Let's turn it around:

Show me one policy or law passed in Florida that is in favor of the "establishment "
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:23 pm to
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You're the one making an accusation. Explain how he IS part of the establishment.


No accusation. I will rephrase.
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
Member since May 2012
956 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:27 pm to

This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:29 pm to
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Having the establishment behind you can achieve victory and perhaps get the train back on the rails. Or stay with the "I told you so" loser on the sidelines pointing at the wreckage to pwn someone on social media.


So do we excuse the military complex and go with stability vs social upheaval?

Or...are they all part of the great reset?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:31 pm to
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At least he doesn't hock nft's and lies to scam people out of their money.


Go back to your Xbox.
Posted by gobnugget
If you
Member since Dec 2020
918 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:33 pm to
frick it. Run Trump. He'll lose. Biden will win. DeSantis will still be the best governor in the country. I can afford another 4 years. Can you?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:44 pm to
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frick it. Run Trump. He'll lose. Biden will win. DeSantis will still be the best governor in the country. I can afford another 4 years. Can you?


So, DeSantis can win?
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
1889 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:46 pm to
Maybe they support him so you won’t. If Don and Ron were running, and you were their enemy. Who would you want elected? And who would you endorse, to maybe, have an impact?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119852 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:47 pm to
So that legislation is “Establishment” because…

Be very specific.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68868 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:47 pm to
He won Florida by a lot. All I really care about. He, the legislature, and the dark red Supreme Court he appointed are making us bulletproof going forward. The rest of this country with the exception of a few right minded states are probably fricked though.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156660 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:58 pm to
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DeSantis Loses Hometown Election to Democrat – Mayoral Candidate Donna Deegan Flips Jacksonville from Red to Blue

Perhaps it’s the Ron DeSantis national pretending 2024 campaign driven by a “book tour.” Perhaps it’s the international travel that distracts a sitting governor from supporting a Republican candidate in the largest geographic metropolitan area in the state. Whatever the reason, the Jacksonville Florida mayoral contest was won by a Democrat, Donna Deegan.



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MGBSE

May 18, 2023 11:52 am

Proving AGAIN … the RNC & GOP are WORTHLESS !!!

DeSantis was busy playing PattyCake with the TRUMP-hating RINO establishment in Kentucky … and now … Jacksonville will be destroyed by RATS
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 7:06 pm
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:42 pm to
I know someone very well connected in Florida politics, he’sa big time lawyer and his wife is a state judge. He’s a huge conservative and he told me that Desantis is as establishment as it gets.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60619 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:12 pm to

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Anyone who runs against Trump.
Thai is what I gather. If appointing Reince Prebis, John Bolton, Chris Wray, Bobb Barr, and backing Kevin McCarthy for SofH doesn’t make one “establishment”… I love to hear what Desantis has done to be “establishment”.

Trump has a record. The FBI is no weaker or less partisan than it was when Trump started. What are we supposed tot think?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25250 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:16 pm to
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I know someone very well connected in Florida politics, he’sa big time lawyer and his wife is a state judge. He’s a huge conservative and he told me that Desantis is as establishment as it gets.


He’s so “establishment” that they tried to keep him from becoming governor.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60619 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:19 pm to
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CAN he be leveraged? Sure, it's possible. It's possible with Trump as well,
Clearly Trump can be. He praised Charlie Crist to backdoor attack Desantis.

Better hope Desantis doesn’t start talking about protecting the 2nd Amendment. Trump will start saying we need gun control.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31142 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:00 pm to
Well, Karl Rove and Bill Barr just signed on with Ron, so theres no arguing against it any longer
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5393 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Well, Karl Rove and Bill Barr


Didn't Trump hire both of those guys?
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