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re: Pfizer data release. 1223 reported fatalities during 3-month period, out of 42K reports

Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3561 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:13 pm to
9 out of 10 Covid deaths in the UK are triple vaccinated.

LINK
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:15 pm to
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Because many external factors influence whether or not an AE is reported, the spontaneous reporting system yields reporting proportions not incidence rates. As a result, it is generally not appropriate to make between-drug comparisons using these proportions; the spontaneous reporting system should be used for signal detection rather than hypothesis testing
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36989 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:21 pm to
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1223 reported fatalities during 3-month period, out of 42K reports
Which includes deaths completely unrelated to the vaccine, like actually dying of COVID because they already had it when they got their shot.

Pure anti-vax BS as usual.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39449 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:22 pm to
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Someone needs to post this for the OT I am tired of fighting with them over CV19


Fitty
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29006 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:23 pm to
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Which includes deaths completely unrelated to the vaccine


Oh that's rich
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:23 pm to
Only pure bloods are worth keeping in the human gene pool
Posted by 504LikeitwasB4
Member since Oct 2021
452 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:23 pm to
A fourth dose will correct the statistics. Promise.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39449 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:26 pm to
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Someone needs to post this for the OT


Done
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85626 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:28 pm to
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Which includes deaths completely unrelated to the vaccine, like actually dying of COVID because they already had it when they got their shot. Pure anti-vax BS as usual.


So the company making the vaccine has anti vaccine bs in their reporting?

Strange.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3564 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:30 pm to
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An accumulation of adverse event reports (AERs) does not necessarily indicate that a particular AE was caused by the drug; rather, the event may be due to an underlying disease or some other factor(s) such as past medical history or concomitant medication.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85626 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:36 pm to
Why didn’t you paste that whole section under methodology Norbert?

Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41916 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:43 pm to
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How many of us tried to tell people?


I did not.

I told people that they could make up their own minds. I wasn’t against the vaccines for those who wanted them. However, personally I was worried about two things...rushed delivery, and long term effects (this one was the more pronounced concern).

I have lots of family that was vaccinated.

This news really sucks. Long term, this has me quite concerned.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23114 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:50 pm to
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No, 3% of adverse reactions were fatal. Not 3% of people taking the vaccine.

Am I reading that 1,223 people died out of 10.7B doses given? If so, that is essentially a 0% chance of dying.


You have uncovered the thing most common to antivaxxers. None are intelligent enough for simple arithmetic.

Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14405 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:51 pm to
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Which includes deaths completely unrelated to the vaccine, like actually dying of COVID because they already had it when they got their shot. Pure anti-vax BS as usual.


Is that why Pfizer wanted to hide it for 90 years?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30934 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:52 pm to
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Am I reading that 1,223 people died out of 10.7B doses given? If so, that is essentially a 0% chance of dying.


I can assure you it's much, much higher than they are saying.
Posted by Mac Power
Member since Jul 2019
463 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:53 pm to
How many doses were given in those three months?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15615 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:59 pm to
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by Norbert quote: An accumulation of adverse event reports (AERs) does not necessarily indicate that a particular AE was caused by the drug; rather, the event may be due to an underlying disease or some other factor(s) such as past medical history or concomitant medication.

Ok, now do the same thing with Covid science guy.

You know the routine: with Covid vs from Covid
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85626 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:02 pm to
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You have uncovered the thing most common to antivaxxers. None are intelligent enough for simple arithmetic.


Holy shite you people are fricking dumb.


So you are saying 10.7 billion doses of Pfizer were given in a 3 month period.

Read that shite again you fricking clown.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5062 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:11 pm to
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No, 3% of adverse reactions were fatal. Not 3% of people taking the vaccine.


3% of the 42k reports of adverse effects. How many adverse effects went unreported? Given the political climate in 2021 and the all-out push for the vaccine, I would think it likely that adverse effects often went unreported.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 5:24 am
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8904 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 8:20 pm to
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Of People reporting adverse events for the vaccine, 3% of them died as of the end date of the study period.
Note to self: If bodies start piling up, end the study period so to contain the damage.
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