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re: Peter Schiff says President Trump surrendered in shortest global trade war in history

Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:11 pm to
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Let me get this straight. He's a loser because he started tariffs and now he's a loser because he took away tariffs? I'm starting to think this isn't about tariffs at all.


You have gained a glimpse into the mystical, tortured world of the TDS-addled mind.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31705 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:13 pm to
a 90 day pause (w 10%) and frick CHINA doe not equate to “surrendered”
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:14 pm to
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China has been doing it for past few days.

Maybe Japan started last night, but first i’ve heard of that.


Either way, China already knew. Its been one of the weapons literally everyone knows China had



Correct. I think Japan joined China last night in selling US Treasurys and it was coordinated. There were reports about them teaming up.


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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:14 pm to
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There was a sell-off in US Treasurys last night. Which was sending the 10 year higher.


Okay, I get that.

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It is being reported that was what made President Trump fold on the Tariffs.


To counter the sell off in the bond market you need buyers.

By triggering a stock market rise the buyers rush to the stock market and not the bond market.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
16116 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:15 pm to

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You have gained a glimpse into the mystical, tortured world of the TDS-addled mind.


Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3587 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:16 pm to
It's about TDS
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:17 pm to
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Correct. I think Japan joined China last night in selling US Treasurys and it was coordinated.


The only way this hurts the U.S. is if they take the bond proceeds (dollar) and convert them to the the yen (i.e., sell the dollar).
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80356 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:18 pm to
Schiff is a crook.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94262 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:18 pm to
Peter Schiff for brains
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33445 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:20 pm to
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nicknamed "Dr. Doom" is an American stockbroker, financial commentator, and radio personality. He co-founded Echelon Wealth Partners in Canada (formerly Euro Pacific Canada).

His father was a prominent figure in the US tax protester movement. He died in federal prison while he was serving a sentence for tax evasion.

Schiff founded Euro Pacific Bank, a full reserve banking operation originally in St. Vincent and the Grenadines

The Puerto Rico Office of the Commissioner of Financial Institutions (OCIF) announced they had suspended the operations of Schiff's Puerto Rico-based Euro Pacific International Bank, which was suspected of having facilitated money laundering and tax evasion. The Commissioner stated that it had found numerous violations of its regulations and that the bank had "not wanted to comply". Regulators liquidated the bank, and Schiff paid $300,000 in fines

Schiff is a vocal Bitcoin sceptic. At times he has remarked that he sees Bitcoin as resembling the tulip mania bubble

Schiff was an economic adviser to Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign

He seems a touch biased
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:21 pm to
Only an idiot would disagree with that.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17886 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:22 pm to
It’s just beyond incredible at this point.

Keeps tariffs, omg the tariffs are killing us we can’t eat, renegotiates some for good behavior and the left says he white flagged it.


I get it but gosh damn. They do the most obvious things now and everyone can see it.

It’s like 3% of the people are locked in and cannot get out of it and they will ultimately alienate themselves into oblivion. It’s just crazy.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53081 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:22 pm to
I'd respond but currently locked for telling someone to suck start a shotgun.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4647 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:23 pm to
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To counter the sell off in the bond market you need buyers.

By triggering a stock market rise the buyers rush to the stock market and not the bond market.


You haven't carried this to the end of the equation. Because of our near permanent twin deficits, foreign entities hold massively more dollar based assets than the US holds foreign currency based assets. If they start dumping dollars, our only recourse is to cancel that foreign held debt, repossess those assets and default, or kiss the dollar goodbye. The US cannot support the dollar in a currency war, period.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:25 pm to
If Japan wants to get in bed with Chyna, bend over and let it happen.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:25 pm to
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By triggering a stock market rise the buyers rush to the stock market and not the bond market.


Normally you would be Correct. But that was not happening. When the Stock Market was selling off in the beginning the 10 year initially started to drop but the last couple of days it started to go higher even with the sell-off. They are saying that was because China and Japan started selling US Treasurys. The 10 year going higher despite the sell off is what caused Trump and his administration to fold on the Tariffs.




Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10349 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:26 pm to
I do not think you can trust anything Wall Street or these money managers say. Trump is costing them and their clients money by trying to reset US Trade.

Many of these folks are mouth pieces of foreign countries and our adversaries.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15047 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:27 pm to
I let dumb focks entertain me
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4148 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:29 pm to
His name is Peter but he sounds like Adam.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25273 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:29 pm to
Looks to me like this was Trump poking the trade weasels with a stick to wake them up. Nobody has done that for a couple of generations.

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