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Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:48 am to Jax-Tiger
Poverty is a relative term. Americans living in 'poverty' today have a middle class lifestyle of 1900. So if they suddenly had a middle class income it would simply cause the low end of the middle class to become labeled as 'in poverty.'
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:52 am to roadGator
No worries. I am no longer your alter. Apparently I am SFP's alter.
Even though I have been here longer than those claiming I am an alter.
Even though I have been here longer than those claiming I am an alter.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:55 am to Jax-Tiger
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People in the US don't really have food insecurities.
I don't agree with this. Just because there are plenty of fat welfare queens with fat children doesn't mean that there isn't plenty of food insecurity in America. The idea that all poor people have more food stamps than they know what to do isn't rooted in truth. Only the ones with a bunch of kids have more food stamps than they know what to do with.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:58 am to Jax-Tiger
Not sure how much it correlates to this video, but I saw this tweet today and it resonates
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:01 pm to Powerman
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But the standards of living for the poor can absolutely be improved in an advanced economy.
It's improved naturally in free market capitalism. Tons of people move from one class to another every generation. Thomas Sowell has great stats proving this. In our free market there is massive movement from poverty to middle class. I'm an example of it. In my youth there were girls who wouldn't date me because I was poor. It didn't bother me. I knew I could move up if I made good decisions.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:06 pm to dgnx6
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Even communism trying to create a classless society doesn't work.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 11:04 am
Communism isn't about classless. That's just what they feed the stupid. Communism is about consolidated power in the . 01% while the 99.99% starve.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:10 pm to UtahCajun
Sweet. They move on to their next idiotic lie.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:20 pm to VOR
quote:No. It is an employed floating signifier.
That's a rational take.
What is poverty in the US vs Italy vs China vs Bangladesh for a family of 4?
In nominal terms, the numbers are at huge variance, which renders "% living in poverty" in a particular society very misleading.
US poverty line - $33,000/yr - 11.5% of society
Italy poverty line - $20,000/yr - 11.2% of society
China poverty line - $2,500/yr - 17% of society
Bangladesh poverty line - $1,500/yr - 18.7% of society
Most measures, including the World Bank Group and European Union statistical agencies, define poverty as living on less than 50% or 60% of the national median income.
So in a perfectly egalitarin society where everyone makes $500/yr, there is no "poverty" by definition.
Lkiewise, increasing median US HH income to $200K/yr would reset US poverty to $100K-$120K/yr income levels.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:30 pm to Powerman
“But the standards of living for the poor can absolutely be improved in an advanced economy.”
I see that you’re being downvoted but this is undoubtably true. And by far, the most powerful tool for decreasing poverty AND for making the lot of the poor more livable has been the free market. Even the gains in places like China and India are largely, if not mostly due to the adoption of free market reforms.
I see that you’re being downvoted but this is undoubtably true. And by far, the most powerful tool for decreasing poverty AND for making the lot of the poor more livable has been the free market. Even the gains in places like China and India are largely, if not mostly due to the adoption of free market reforms.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:33 pm to NC_Tigah
Yep, I agree with that take.
You can never "cure" poverty, because of the sliding scale - the lower percentages will always be in "poverty" regardless of their actual income or living standards - despite them having the highest living standards in the history of the world. Even the poorest Americans live better than most kings and billionaires in distant history.
And despite the cries of "income inequality" there has never been a smaller gap in actual relative wealth and living standards between poor and rich, at least in the United States.
You can be extremely poor, and have a smart phone, air conditioning, clean water, electricity, access to virtually any food product you want minutes from your house, color television, perhaps even a car. The list goes on and on.
You can never "cure" poverty, because of the sliding scale - the lower percentages will always be in "poverty" regardless of their actual income or living standards - despite them having the highest living standards in the history of the world. Even the poorest Americans live better than most kings and billionaires in distant history.
And despite the cries of "income inequality" there has never been a smaller gap in actual relative wealth and living standards between poor and rich, at least in the United States.
You can be extremely poor, and have a smart phone, air conditioning, clean water, electricity, access to virtually any food product you want minutes from your house, color television, perhaps even a car. The list goes on and on.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:41 pm to Jax-Tiger
In the US, for any able bodied person….poverty is a choice
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:53 pm to Powerman
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Look at countries like China and India that have combined lifted probably well over a billion people out of abject poverty.
Ignorance personified .,,, smh
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:56 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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I don't agree with this. Just because there are plenty of fat welfare queens with fat children doesn't mean that there isn't plenty of food insecurity in America. The idea that all poor people have more food stamps than they know what to do isn't rooted in truth. Only the ones with a bunch of kids have more food stamps than they know what to do with.
Food insecurity is a bullshite term that is entirely subjective. The fact is that no one in the United States is in danger of starvation, unless they are severely mentally ill or on drugs.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:59 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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I don't agree with this.
I stand by it. The only people who have food insecurities are children who have assholes for parents.
Sure, there are mentally ill people and drug addicts who go hungry, but it is because thwy don't/won't go to the soup kitchen/food pantry/ church and won't apply for food stamps.
We don't have a shortage of food. We have the opposite. We waste too much.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:59 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Food insecurity is a bullshite term that is entirely subjective. The fact is that no one in the United States is in danger of starvation, unless they are severely mentally ill or on drugs.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 1:32 pm to roadGator
Everyone starts with zero dollars……some finish that way…it is on them….
Most finish with lots of money……
Most finish with lots of money……
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