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re: Pence finally weighs in on the election
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:15 am to Paddyshack
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:15 am to Paddyshack
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Why didn't he stand up on the floor of the Senate and say this shite?
They still had the vote right?
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:15 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What did you want him to do?
Grant a motion allowing a recess for of the debate to permit time for an audit and hearing by the senate on voting irregularities as he agreed to do before welching on his word.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:18 am to Jbird
What this board and Donald Trump included do not understand that the Vice President is a figurehead position with absolutely no power whatsoever.
The Vice Presidency is basically the secretary of irrelevancy and uselessness.
The fact that so many of you and Trump as well thought otherwise brings into question their institutional knowledge of how government works.
If pence objected to the EC certification, the senate would’ve just removed pence and put up the senate president pro temp and counted the votes as normal.
The Vice Presidency is basically the secretary of irrelevancy and uselessness.
The fact that so many of you and Trump as well thought otherwise brings into question their institutional knowledge of how government works.
If pence objected to the EC certification, the senate would’ve just removed pence and put up the senate president pro temp and counted the votes as normal.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:25 am to coachcrisp
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Pence hung in there with Trump and took a ton of the crap that was meant for the President only to be ostracized at the end of the term.
Pence learned that loyalty as far as Donald Trump is concerned is a one way street, and loyalty doesn’t matter when Trump is inconvenienced.
Trump is only loyal to his family and a very tiny set of a select few friends.
It’s one of his biggest flaws and prevented him from taking his presidency to the next level.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:27 am to Wednesday
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Grant a motion allowing a recess for of the debate to permit time for an audit and hearing by the senate on voting irregularities as he agreed to do before welching on his word.
I don't recall him ever agreeing to do that. Regardless, he had no authority to do that. By law, they had to count the votes that day, January 6th, until they were finished.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:28 am to PsychTiger
quote:So are you saying that ALL people in nat'l politics are liars? If so, then nobody should be reelected. Tell you what, do some googling about the general opinion regarding Pence, AND the people who said it...you may be surprised.
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The guy's got one of the best reputations of anybody in nat'l politics, dim or republican, for being honest and true to his word.
Is saying "he lies less than the other liars" really saying much though?
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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You can believe the results are legitimate if you like, but NO ONE can say that election law was adapted legally or applied consistently in these contested states.
You can BELIEVE anything you like - I believe OJ murdered two people and the jury trial was a joke. In this instance, one man went free - spit puke - and the lives of those two innocent people were lost, the rest of the nation could reflect on the unfairness and try to amend things for the better. <-- of course that never happened = DEMs were deliriously happy that another 'blow against ray-cisssssm' was delivered. - same with everything from the 'gently giant' to the 'saintly George Floyd.' But we still lived under an umbrella of law that made it POSSIBLE to 'form a more perfect union" that could someday find the correct solution to these moral anomalies.
Not so with this past 'election.' What that did was effectively remove any chance of keeping out liberty, freedom, common sense, founding principles to ever retain a toe-hold on the slippery slope of oligarchal tyranny.
The constitution, nor any of its succeeding amendments and law, are a recipe for suicide.
There was one chance to cling by the fingernails to the principle of government 'by the people' - Allowing the seditious coup to overtake ever vestige of the governmental structure leaves only one option for correction - individual physical rebellion.
Every DEM and GOPe political animal made decisions that embedded a government not at all like anything that had been explained to the public - and if the true facts be known, the real citizenry of the nation abjectly refuted even their professed intentions.
This election should have been declared a disaster of malpractice and venal intent. To 'save the republic' our last competent official with principle should have said NO - THIS SHALL NOT PASS!! - and should have interpreted every written word of the constitution with regard to its original textual reading and declared that the blatantly UN-CONSTITUTIONAL conditions that allowed the calamity to evolve SHALL BE RESOLVED before a 'choice of the people' was decided.
An quick solution would have just handed it over to the House of Representatives to decide the election based on the constitutional safeguard against a 'suspect' election process.
A better solution could have been to delay the inauguration until the specific states involved in the irregularities could re-do their state election - with no additional advertising/politics. and with strict federal oversight of each vote taken - all by individual paper ballot, from certified registered voters who can prove who they are.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:30 am to Jbird
frick Pence The Leaker
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What special opportunity was he, as VP, given? What did you want him to do?
He could have done whatever he was willing to do.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:34 am to Vacherie Saint
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This is undeniable. You can believe the results are legitimate if you like, but NO ONE can say that election law was adapted legally or applied consistently in these contested states.
Election reform is the hill republicans need to be willing to die on.
You already died on that hill, election reform has nothing to do with anything.
Laws are already in place, without enforcement they mean jack shite and jack left town.
At this point there really is no election law.... I mean the SoS can just say whatever the candidate he/she wants to win... won.
Everyone just does whatever they want, no judicial review... no enforcement... no law.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:37 am to Sentrius
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What this board and Donald Trump included do not understand that the Vice President is a figurehead position with absolutely no power whatsoever.
What would have happened if Pence had acted beyond his power?
He was presiding over a situation in which multiple Secretary of State's acted outside of their power.
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If pence objected to the EC certification, the senate would’ve just removed pence and put up the senate president pro temp and counted the votes as normal.
It probably ends up in the Supreme Court where all abuses of power were addressed. Pence was unwilling to do what his political opponents had already done...act in a way that may technically end up being unconstitutional.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:38 am to Wednesday
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Grant a motion allowing a recess for of the debate to permit time for an audit and hearing by the senate on voting irregularities as he agreed to do
Link?
Pence had no authority to do that.
Again, the VP is a figurehead position with no power and the fact that some of you believe otherwise makes you look ignorant.
The VP's own constitutional role is to beak ties in the senate for nominees and legislation. That's it. That's where his role ends.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:38 am to Jbird
Yeah, and when he could’ve done something about it, he cowered to the left. Too little, too late Pence. You’re irrelevant and you were before Trump selected you. Go back to being a nobody. Thanks.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:39 am to Jbird
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Pence finally weighs in on the election
Benedict Pence is dead to me.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:40 am to Sentrius
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Link?
Pence had no authority to do that.
Again, the VP is a figurehead position with no power and the fact that some of you believe otherwise makes you look ignorant.
The VP's own constitutional role is to beak ties in the senate for nominees and legislation. That's it. That's where his role ends.
There is no judicial review so yes he could do whatever he wanted. Actually his role was to open and count the votes, without enforcement there really wouldn't have been anything anyone could really do about it.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:40 am to moneyg
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What would have happened if Pence had acted beyond his power?
GOP senate removes him and replaces him with Chuck Grassley, the senate president pro temp who did not object to the EC certification.
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It probably ends up in the Supreme Court where all abuses of power were addressed.
Hah no.
It ends with the Senate removing Pence and proceeding as normal with Grassley in the chair.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:41 am to Vacherie Saint
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You can believe the results are legitimate if you like, but NO ONE can say that election law was adapted legally or applied consistently in these contested states.
Election reform is the hill republicans need to be willing to die on.
This is where I’m at. I don’t believe there was some sort of China-Biden-Dominion organization that changed millions of votes on the machines.
I DO believe that Governors and Sec of States unilaterally ignored the constitutional authority of their state legislatures and made changes to voting rules that greatly opened up avenues for the laziest of the laziest of the voting population to have a say in our elections.
People who were too lazy to even request a ballot, and too lazy to drop off said ballot at an already authorized drop box location, suddenly were able to cast their ballot. We rewarded those types.
Voting was already extremely easy in this country. There wasn’t a need to make it even easier, but such was done under the guise of “safety”, and I bet 95% of the ballots for those people had the Biden box checked.
And now Congress and the White House wants to make that shite permanent FEDERAL law. That will ensure control of our federal government by Democrat communists.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:41 am to coachcrisp
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He's stating his opinion on the present voting rights amendment getting ready to be voted on.
said there were “significant voting irregularities” and “numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law” in the 2020 presidential election.
Sorry, I just assumed this was about the 2020 election
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:42 am to Jbird
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said there were “significant voting irregularities” and “numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law” in the 2020 presidential election.
Yet he presided over the certification of said election. Dereliction of duty defined right there.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:43 am to Sentrius
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GOP senate removes him and replaces him with Chuck Grassley, the senate president pro temp who did not object to the EC certification.
Only through impeachment, and I don't see grounds to for impeachment. And that takes time.
He had an opportunity to stand up and he didn't. <---- his career is over in politics... maybe he could get job at CNN.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:45 am
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