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re: Paddock traveled to Jordan and UAE

Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:00 pm to
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I haven’t seen one person on this board dismiss Isis.
just today, hail

lots of posters, are you kidding me? and conspiracy tin foil hat references and jokes...give me a break. i don't necessarily blame them for that gut reaction given it's a white guy, but if you look at things dispassionately it's pretty high up on the list of why he did this.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Well its clear you never been to the middle east



bahrain and Dubai...as far as land goes, but enlighten me world traveler. i guess you assume i'm illiterate though if i stay on twitter i will be.

honestly, if having traveled to Dubai doesn't arouse a modicum of suspicion on your part, then it's pride or you're a complete fricking moron. since i know the latter isn't true, i'm guessing you don't want to "be wrong" or you aren't getting what i'm saying

your wife is Filipino, you travel to Jordan and UAE (and who knows if it was just Dubai) and shortly after that you gun down a bunch of people in an exceptionally well planned attack for which ISIS took credit not once, not twice, but three times a lady...I think investigators are probably going to follow up on that, no?
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146614 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:06 pm to
this is PollyPretzel

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:10 pm to
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I spent six months in Qatar of all places

fcukkkkk

At least you guys had beer there.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:11 pm to
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Some of yall want this to be a Muslim thing so bad.


Its incredible how badly they want it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:13 pm to
How is this a smoking gun exactly?
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:13 pm to
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So have I and lots of other people.

Did you shoot 550 people when you got back to America?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24580 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:13 pm to
Hail said it’s 100% not Isis? Then he’s just as bad as bamarep saying it’s 100% Isis or a staunch liberal. Until the investigation is over and a motive is uncovered no one knows, and assuming is stupid
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146614 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:13 pm to
That's sick. No one wants it, but there is more to the story PERIOD.

Maybe research how many on twitter celebrated the death of Trump supporters. They are the sick ones.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37510 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:15 pm to
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Some of yall want this to be a Muslim thing so bad.


Nothing wrong with discussing the possibility.

A faction of y'all get upset when it is mentioned. I think if it turned out to be ISIS some of you would be upset
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:16 pm to
anyone saying 100% anything is a fool...if they actually really have that level of conviction.

yeah he said it this morning as i recall

quote:

Until the investigation is over and a motive is uncovered no one knows
duh

quote:

assuming is stupid
assumption and speculation are not the same thing.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:20 pm to

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Its incredible how badly they want it.
i want to know why, whatever the reason is because the details both big and small are all really unusual.

why would someone want it to be isis? i can see someone wanting it to be a liberal or conservative. the Orlando shooter was a muslim, and that was a point of interest given trump's stance on "the ban" and immigration and that the victims were homosexuals. in that instance i can see "wanting it to be isis"

here, it would just be the answer to a question.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23676 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:26 pm to
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cruises


A lot of jihadists on cruise ships. My parents in their mid-70s are cruise ship jihadis. They just got back from Alaska and are doing a trip through the Suez Canal early next year. Maybe I should search their RV for bump stock assault rifles.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Did you shoot 550 people when you got back to America?

I thought about it. But The WB had a Dawson’s Creek marathon running the last time I got back and I wasn’t missing that shite for anything.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Jordan and UAE


These are not ISIS hotbeds. Jordan is an extremely liberal Muslim country and I don't think that ISIS is in either one. This is a stretch. He would be more likely to be radicalized over the internet.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:46 pm to
No one is suggesting he went to the united Arab emirates on a cruise where he became radicalized


Could be he went there to meet someone. Forgive me for thinking that this guy may have successfully avoided detection because he was careful. Maybe he went there to have fun, a lot of people do, but they don't usually shoot 500 people in a metropolitan area shortly thereafter

I suspect he avoided detection for reasons beyond his control. How were they supposed to flag him? But given the detail and organization he strikes me as the type to make an effort
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:49 pm to
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These are not ISIS hotbeds


True but I would imagine isis has operatives or connections there

Could be a wild goose chase but CNN is reporting it because its not irrelevant given some of the details
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90549 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:22 pm to
Jordan and UAE aren't Isis hotbeds though

Fairly westernized countries
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:30 pm to
It said his girlfriend was on 9 of the cruises. It might be interesting as to which trips she was/ was not on. If he left her behind on all trips which included conflict countries, it might be more intriguing.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:33 pm to
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anyone who immediately dismissed the potential isis connection is a fool.


Contempt, prior to investigation. Usually a situation tat exists with educated persons. Which makes me question education.

It seems reasonable to me to not jump to conclusions. And to not dismiss any possibility.
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