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re: Our Culture Would Be So Healthy if it KNEW the TRUTH About Slavery Historically!!
Posted on 12/10/25 at 2:45 pm to justaniceguy
Posted on 12/10/25 at 2:45 pm to justaniceguy
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Forget whites. Thank the British
The Greeks and the Danes (?) were among the first to outlaw slavery, but the British, while late to the party, were the most efficacious at eradicating it.
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 4:19 pm to Timeoday
Everyone in this thread is missing the point. It’s not about history, the facts or the contradictions. None of the race peddlers are interested in the truth. Perception is reality.
It’s about using this as a tool to mobilize ignorant people to support them so they gain money and power at their expense. These people are the modern day version of the Africans that sold their people into slavery to begin with. The progressive party is their plantation. The get free food and housing as long as they do their job.
It’s about using this as a tool to mobilize ignorant people to support them so they gain money and power at their expense. These people are the modern day version of the Africans that sold their people into slavery to begin with. The progressive party is their plantation. The get free food and housing as long as they do their job.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 12/10/25 at 4:36 pm to Bwmdx
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What is antisemitic about pointing out who owned the boats?
The hypocrisy is amazing when considering percentage wise, some of the largest slave owners were in fact Jewish and the largest transporters of slaves were Jewish as well.
Odd how the "anti-semitic" card is played even when the (above) facts and truth are slammed on the table.
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They use claims of “us whites are to blame for…insert what ever anti white trope is popular at the time”.
Absolutely true.
Whitey has been THE scapegoat for what was the most part historically a Jewish-run mercantile-naval operation for centuries. As wealthy merchants they facilitated major "slavery" institutions in early America (especially in the South) as well as in S. America, the Caribbean, and Europe.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 4:40 pm to Nosevens
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Who captured the slaves? Sold them ?
It was a convenient way for tribal chiefs to get rid of their rivals and trouble makers and make a profit at the same time.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 4:45 pm to VOR
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In any event, there is no defense for the buying and selling of human beings like chattel. It was a horrendous institution in America...
You might be shocked by this, but southern and eastern Europeans have been victims of slavery for millennia, deep into the 19th century.
The Phoenicians (Jews), Romans, Greeks, Turks, Moors ALL took and sold slaves as merchandise and commodities. Our human past is a complete sordid mess.
As an "institution" in America, slavery was facilitated and used mostly by the very wealthy. Because, again -- people were chattel, mere human merchandise. And no slavery was NOT a "Christian" thing by and large at all.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:00 pm to EphesianArmor
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As an "institution" in America, slavery was facilitated and used mostly by the very wealthy. Because, again -- people were chattel, mere human merchandise.
Slavery ended in Latin America not out of the goodness of the hearts of the owners. They just discovered that it was cheaper to hire seasonal labor when needed and not have to provide slaves housing, food and medical care all year long. People who were slaves were valuable property that had to be maintained even when there was little work that needed to be done.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:07 pm to SallysHuman
FROM LIFE, Taken at Baton Rouge, La. April 2nd, 1863.
Camp Parapet, La.
Aug. 4th 1863.
Colonel,
I have found a large number of the four hundred contrabands examined by me to be as badly lacerated as the specimen represented in the inclosed photograph.
Very respectfully
Yours,
W. W. Mercer
Asst. Surgeon 47th M.V.
Camp Parapet, La.
Aug. 4th 1863.
Colonel,
I have found a large number of the four hundred contrabands examined by me to be as badly lacerated as the specimen represented in the inclosed photograph.
Very respectfully
Yours,
W. W. Mercer
Asst. Surgeon 47th M.V.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:20 pm to Timeoday
Read Thomas Sowell. Anything he ever wrote on the subject.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:28 pm to suavecito80
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Slavery isn't a color thing it never has been
True. Color was never a factor, in and of itself. People who were enslaved were by and large those who were vulnerable, regardless of their color.
Color mattered in the US because blacks stood out. They couldn't easily integrate and were always easily identifiable.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:31 pm to RollTide4547
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People act like whites in America just marched into the jungle and captured the slaves.
As Thomas Sowell put it, had slave traders marched onto the African continent they'd have been much more likely to catch malaria than to catch a slave.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 5:39 pm to Timeoday
Africans and Arabs perfected the slave trade. They had it down to a science.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:13 pm to retired_tiger
quote:I'd trade places with Elon Musk in a heartbeat!
Do you think a white American would trade places with an African American today?
Why not?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:23 pm to udtiger
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Fun fact...
The Southern US was the only example in the history of the transatlantic slave period where the slave population INCREASED because of natural population growth after importation ended.
Why did the Irish dig canals in NOLA and not slaves?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:29 pm to Timeoday
quote:No, they do not.
Many act as if slavery was a uniquely American crime.
The "problem" is not that American slavery was somehow unique in the history of the world. The "problem" is the disconnect between our reliance upon the institution and the grand (and unique) ideals about "equality" espoused in our founding documents.
Like it or not, there is a certain level of hypocrisy there. And I say this as someone who sees Jefferson as our greatest POTUS.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:35 pm to choupiquesushi
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Why did the Irish dig canals in NOLA and not slaves?
Because those worthless micks were just that.
Local slave owners didn't want to risk the slaves they had paid a shitton of specie for.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:43 pm to Timeoday
quote:You repeat this lie again and again and again. You are shown that you are wrong, so you go briefly silent, then you repeat it yet again.
The slave owner with the most slaves in Louisiana was a black man.
Yes, there were Black slaveowners throughout the South, including in Louisiana. The largest in Louisiana was Antoine Dubuclet, who owned slightly more than 100 slaves. The Richards family (combined) owned about 150.
By comparison, the largest slaveholder in Louisiana was a White man named Stephen Duncan, who owned approximately 2200 slaves.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:49 pm to Penrod
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The Greeks and the Danes (?) were among the first to outlaw slavery, but the British, while late to the party, were the most efficacious at eradicating it.
So the fella says "Forget the whites. Thank the British."
I had no idea the British were not white. Wow!!
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:59 pm to suavecito80
quote:Even in the Western Hemisphere.
Slavery isn't a color thing it never has been.
Colonists throughout the hemisphere needed labor, and they were willing to indenture (and eventually to enslave) anyone who could provide that labor.
They only began importing Blacks from Africa after European diseases had killed the indigenous ("Native American") forced labor pool.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:02 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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By comparison, the largest slaveholder in Louisiana was a White man named Stephen Duncan, who owned approximately 2200 slaves.
Ol' Dunc' owned plantations in Louisiana and Mississippi. I stand by my factual statement.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:04 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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The "problem" is the disconnect between our reliance upon the institution and the grand (and unique) ideals about "equality" espoused in our founding documents.
Slavery existed before the documents, also, the original documents didn't speak well of slavery. *yawn*
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