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re: One problem NEVER discussed by politicians: Taking care of elderly family

Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:26 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26638 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:26 am to
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Families are literally wiped out by nursing home expenses. Medicaid grabs all the family assets. It's a major problem yet never discussed.


Don’t put your family in a nursing home paid for by Medicaid…problem solved?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
22528 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:33 am to
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There use to be a time when families took care of families. How sad that a Mom or Dad breaks their backs to work and support children to make sure they are always cared and covered until adulthood, and sometimes pass that, and when Mom and Dad become a burden to their busy lifestyle, they must be placed somewhere.



The duty to provide: In 2 Corinthians 12:14, the Apostle Paul notes a natural order to family finance, stating that "children are not obligated to save up for their parents, but parents for their children."
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
73489 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:18 am to
If you don't plan for it that happens. Back in the day they just tossed you arse out and lay you in the potters field they called em.
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
73489 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:25 am to
Social programs from the government are not in the same ballpark as a Socialist government.

The worst of my professors at college were women and Marxist believers.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
37018 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:59 am to
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You missed the point where the OP believes the taxpayers should foot the bill instead of the elderly having to cash in assets to pay for their care before medicaid kicks in.

In other words to OP is upset because in his opinion the "inheritance" is being squandered by end of life care and wants the tax payers to foot the bill.


I was responding to the poster who was making the dumb blanket statement about people not keeping their elderly parents at home. Even when they do keep them at home, it can still be a huge expense.

I made no statements in support of the other issue you mention.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11886 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:18 am to
Used to be the family unit played a major role in end of life care. Trying to keep out of the nursing home experience. Hospice was and is a valued assistance in managing home health. Nursing homes have lots of promises, to justify lots of cost, but it all boils down to the lowest possible paid staff who treat inmates as things Rather than loved ones.

Check out the second season of "Landman" and the treatment of Billy Bob Thorton's father as he resides in a classic small town nursing home and gets rescued to again become a family member. It's a great story. Binge worthy for the season.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1250 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:23 am to
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I don't know all the ins and outs but my personal experience:



Is your mother on traditional medicare or medicare advantage?

My mother was on traditional medicare, she was briefly in rehab. Medicare would have paid for 20 days in rehab and a doctor could appeal to extend it.

I have heard stories of people in these situations having trouble with Medicare Advantage. I am 61, I'll be making that choice for myself in a few years.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15201 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:29 am to
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One problem NEVER discussed by politicians: Taking care of elderly family


What are you talking about? Social Security and Medicare are literally the biggest expenditures in the federal budget.


Now, if you want to argue those programs need to be improved, I definitely won't argue with you. But it clearly isn't ignored.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
10006 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 10:17 am to
She had Medicare Advantage. From memory, they claimed United wss responsible.

The advice was to fight United who was bad about trying to deny expensive rehab to patients over 80 but would likely somewhat back down if you were willing to fight them. Huge stressful and costly ordeal though.
Posted by Markus Strauss
Member since Jun 2026
2 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:20 pm to
The point is that they were talking about medicare paying for it so it wouldn't be removed from one's estate.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1250 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:41 pm to
It's why I am of a mind to choose traditional medicare with medigap coverage when it comes time. The Medicare Advantage law gave the insurance companies the power to do things like that. If you google it, there are all kinds of stories out there.

I think a lot of older people are duped into Medicare Advantage by all the scams that tell them they'll get $200 more is SS each month. One trip to the ER eats that and then some.



Posted by APHA
Corpus Christi
Member since Mar 2013
587 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:17 pm to
My mother is 83 and scheduled to go to Thailand next year and live in a resort like atmosphere. I don't trust caregivers in the US especially in nursing or assisted homes. Thailand is like the fifties in the US where they still revere the older people. Below is just a general view of costs associated there. Much more workable financially. The medical service and equipment in Thailand far exceeds the same in the US


Cost Breakdown by Tier

• Budget / Local Level: ?12,000 – ?25,000 per month ($350 – $700 USD)
• Details: Often family-run or basic local nursing homes in rural areas or provinces outside major hubs (such as Isan). Includes shared accommodation, basic daily care, and meals.
• Mid-Range Level: ?25,000 – ?45,000 per month ($700 – $1,250 USD)
• Details: The most common choice for families. Typically features 24-hour care, on-site registered nurses, comfortable rooms, and recreational activities in popular areas like Chiang Mai, Chonburi, or Bangkok.
• Premium / Luxury / International Resorts: ?45,000 – ?180,000+ per month ($1,300 – $5,000+ USD)
• Details: Resort-style senior living, specialized memory/dementia care, or private villas with high staff-to-resident ratios (sometimes 1:1 or 1:2), swimming pools, physical therapy, and English-speaking or Western-trained management.

Key Factors Affecting Price

• Location: Facilities in Bangkok, Phuket, or high-end expat areas cost 20–30% more than rural or northern provinces like Chiang Mai.
• Level of Dependency: Intensive care needs—such as bedridden patients, round-the-clock 1-on-1 nursing, tube feeding, or advanced dementia care—add 30–50% or more to base rates.
• Room Selection: Shared wards are the cheapest, while private rooms, suites, or detached pool villas significantly increase the monthly price.
• Hidden/Extra Costs: Many facilities bill separately for prescription medications (?2,000 – ?10,000/month), adult diapers and supplies (?1,500 – ?4,000/month), specialized physical therapy sessions, or hospital transport. 1000 baht is 30 dollars
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
28473 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:19 pm to
Pray you do not ever need to borrow against the equity. Hard to borrow money when asset is in the irrevocable trust.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
14220 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Medicaid grabs all the family assets


Wrong. Medicaid does not grab anything. It just Waits until all the Family Assets are gone to kick in
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