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re: One of the drug boats had two Trinidadians on board, here is some local details
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:09 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:09 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Not that I prefer legalization, but it would likely take some of the profit from foreign bad guys
Economically, we support and prop up the cartels with our current policy
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:12 am to trinidadtiger
Pretty fancy fishing boat. I wonder how these Venezuelan fisherman can afford those outboard motors? ??

Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:13 am to Bunk Moreland
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that are zero threat to our national security interest whatsoever.
Zero threat ? I know your heart is in the right place. But zero threat?
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:28 am to ABearsFanNMS
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There is some truth to this however if you drastically limit the supply you make them scarce. I did 18 months in South America doing the “war on drugs” which was reality “let the indigenous countries have a police action”. It is a war and needs to be prosecuted as such if you want to make a dent in it. You hit the supply chain so hard the drugs become scarce and cost become unattainable in the US. Thus you limit the market dramatically.
We will never stop the flow of drugs however in this case fentanyl is the problem and the goal should be to destroy enough supply that the cost to the cartels make it where they decide to stop moving fentanyl and go back to moving purer party drugs. No fentanyl means drastic drop in ODs which means government goes back to not caring about drugs.
People like Bunk like to label every person who does a drug a worthless junkie and completely ignore the thousands of cases of teens and college students who partake in a line of coke or ecstasy pill at a party and end up getting a lethal dose of fentanyl. Those people had their whole lives ahead of them and while doing drugs was dumb young people always have and always will make dumb decisions.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to Bunk Moreland
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I'm still pretty shocked that people are in support of blowing up ships off the coast of another continent that are zero threat to our national security interest whatsoever.
K...Give us your brilliant fix.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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As a father that lost a son to laced drugs I say go frick your arse with a splintery 2 X 4!
Would have happened regardless of where the drugs come from.
Holy hell Roger, I can't believe this was your response.
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Terrible reasoning. Same reasoning Democrats use for their bullshite. "If we can save one life."
No, it's not terrible reasoning.
Historically, people who illegally produce drugs for distribution in America are horrid people, but they're selling to a customer base that they need as recurring customers. They care about repeat business.
You started having the monumental spike on overdose deaths when foreign entities like the cartels and the CCP began lacing fentanyl into everything they distribute to the US. They literally don't care if it kills US citizens.
What you're saying is the literal equivalent of someone saying, "I'm sorry your daughter was raped and killed by an illegal immigrant, but she would have been raped and killed by an American if it wasn't an illegal alien."
You're better than this, man.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to Tigahs24Seven
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K...Give us your brilliant fix.
Take their power away, bring the drug market into the legtit marketplace.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:35 am to TigerAxeOK
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Terrible reasoning. Same reasoning Democrats use for their bullshite. "If we can save one life."
No, it's not terrible reasoning.
Yes, it is. Its illogical.
The homicide rate in this country is a direct result of our drug policy, handing over a massive segment of the economy to the black market.
I would rather people die by their own choice, rather than fuel drug wars.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Take their power away, bring the drug market into the legtit marketplace.
It would be a large admission as to the failure of our society. It won't happen while Trump is in office. Is any party in the US advocating legalizing all drugs? At this time, there is no constituency for it.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:37 am to ruzil
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This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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It would be a large admission as to the failure of our society.
I think this is very obvious at the present time. Everyone seems to agree the drug war has been a massive failure because we attack the wrong people.
The DEA made its money attacking supply, and has grown massive with no real progress.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to deltaland
If we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels, not cocaine drug runners in Venezuela. We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to Bard
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He was out catching the rare and elusive cocoafish.
Nothing like a day on the water catching the rare and valuable square grouper

Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:41 am to SCLibertarian
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We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.

Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:45 am to trinidadtiger
Drugs are more profitable than fish, end of story!
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:47 am to trinidadtiger
I’m sure that’s the story he told his mama when he was away for a week at a time using his fishing boat to run drugs to Florida.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:50 am to SCLibertarian
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If we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels, not cocaine drug runners in Venezuela. We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.
You need to put a spoiler tag on this. You just ruined War on Drugs 2.0(tm): Black Ops for everyone who hasn't played it.
The twist at the end is the best part!
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:52 am to trinidadtiger
Why does everyone think that if you are against this, then you are soft on drugs? We have laws. Arrest them and sentemce them. If somebody was suspected of drug trafficking in the US, they would be arrested amd give a trial, not blown up where they stand.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:25 pm to SCLibertarian
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we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels
If the Mexican cartels brought drugs over intl waters we'd unexist them too.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The DEA made its money attacking supply, and has grown massive with no real progress.
True
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