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re: One of the drug boats had two Trinidadians on board, here is some local details

Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:09 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:09 am to
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Not that I prefer legalization, but it would likely take some of the profit from foreign bad guys


Economically, we support and prop up the cartels with our current policy
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3611 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:12 am to
Pretty fancy fishing boat. I wonder how these Venezuelan fisherman can afford those outboard motors? ??
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143856 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:13 am to
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that are zero threat to our national security interest whatsoever.


Zero threat ? I know your heart is in the right place. But zero threat?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102794 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:28 am to
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There is some truth to this however if you drastically limit the supply you make them scarce. I did 18 months in South America doing the “war on drugs” which was reality “let the indigenous countries have a police action”. It is a war and needs to be prosecuted as such if you want to make a dent in it. You hit the supply chain so hard the drugs become scarce and cost become unattainable in the US. Thus you limit the market dramatically.


We will never stop the flow of drugs however in this case fentanyl is the problem and the goal should be to destroy enough supply that the cost to the cartels make it where they decide to stop moving fentanyl and go back to moving purer party drugs. No fentanyl means drastic drop in ODs which means government goes back to not caring about drugs.

People like Bunk like to label every person who does a drug a worthless junkie and completely ignore the thousands of cases of teens and college students who partake in a line of coke or ecstasy pill at a party and end up getting a lethal dose of fentanyl. Those people had their whole lives ahead of them and while doing drugs was dumb young people always have and always will make dumb decisions.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to
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I'm still pretty shocked that people are in support of blowing up ships off the coast of another continent that are zero threat to our national security interest whatsoever.


K...Give us your brilliant fix.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38073 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to
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As a father that lost a son to laced drugs I say go frick your arse with a splintery 2 X 4!



Would have happened regardless of where the drugs come from.

Holy hell Roger, I can't believe this was your response.
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Terrible reasoning. Same reasoning Democrats use for their bullshite. "If we can save one life."


No, it's not terrible reasoning.

Historically, people who illegally produce drugs for distribution in America are horrid people, but they're selling to a customer base that they need as recurring customers. They care about repeat business.

You started having the monumental spike on overdose deaths when foreign entities like the cartels and the CCP began lacing fentanyl into everything they distribute to the US. They literally don't care if it kills US citizens.

What you're saying is the literal equivalent of someone saying, "I'm sorry your daughter was raped and killed by an illegal immigrant, but she would have been raped and killed by an American if it wasn't an illegal alien."

You're better than this, man.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:32 am to
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K...Give us your brilliant fix.


Take their power away, bring the drug market into the legtit marketplace.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:35 am to
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Terrible reasoning. Same reasoning Democrats use for their bullshite. "If we can save one life."

No, it's not terrible reasoning.


Yes, it is. Its illogical.

The homicide rate in this country is a direct result of our drug policy, handing over a massive segment of the economy to the black market.

I would rather people die by their own choice, rather than fuel drug wars.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24026 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:36 am to
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Take their power away, bring the drug market into the legtit marketplace.


It would be a large admission as to the failure of our society. It won't happen while Trump is in office. Is any party in the US advocating legalizing all drugs? At this time, there is no constituency for it.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5195 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:37 am to
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This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 11:51 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to
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It would be a large admission as to the failure of our society.


I think this is very obvious at the present time. Everyone seems to agree the drug war has been a massive failure because we attack the wrong people.

The DEA made its money attacking supply, and has grown massive with no real progress.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42157 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to
If we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels, not cocaine drug runners in Venezuela. We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102794 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:40 am to
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He was out catching the rare and elusive cocoafish.


Nothing like a day on the water catching the rare and valuable square grouper


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:41 am to
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We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.


Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25322 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:45 am to
Drugs are more profitable than fish, end of story!
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15280 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:47 am to
I’m sure that’s the story he told his mama when he was away for a week at a time using his fishing boat to run drugs to Florida.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75214 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:50 am to
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If we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels, not cocaine drug runners in Venezuela. We want Maduro out and the drug issue is cover for it.

You need to put a spoiler tag on this. You just ruined War on Drugs 2.0(tm): Black Ops for everyone who hasn't played it.

The twist at the end is the best part!
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4743 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:52 am to
Why does everyone think that if you are against this, then you are soft on drugs? We have laws. Arrest them and sentemce them. If somebody was suspected of drug trafficking in the US, they would be arrested amd give a trial, not blown up where they stand.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:25 pm to
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we want to stop the flow of fentanyl in the United States, we should be at war with the Mexican cartels


If the Mexican cartels brought drugs over intl waters we'd unexist them too.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:27 pm to
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The DEA made its money attacking supply, and has grown massive with no real progress.


True
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