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re: One in the chamber or not?
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:24 am to HubbaBubba
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:24 am to HubbaBubba
Interesting. At least half of you think someone that's scared to carry a live round in the chamber is competent to carry at all? Cmon, go take a concealed carry class and practice practice practice till you get comfortable. If you're that uncomfortable with a firearm you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you.
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:27 am to HubbaBubba
All good. Technical differences in the gun world seem to be what separate the gun-educated from the Bidens of the world. I don't know why the clip/magazine draws my attention more than any other miswording.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:28 am to TigerGman
One in the chamber if it’s on you for actual proper use to protect your life or the life of another.
Otherwise, why bother. Life and trouble come at you fast.
Practice, practice, practice
Otherwise, why bother. Life and trouble come at you fast.
Practice, practice, practice
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:32 am to TigerGman
Been carrying personally and professionally since 1984.
Unless you practice, practice, and practice some more, I think I heard described best as when the SHTF your hands become flippers... try racking the slide on an auto or pulling the hammer back with a flipper. Muscle memory works best with constant reinforcement training.
Anyone with confidence issues with the manual of arms for an auto might consider training with a double action revolver for carry until their confidence issues are resolved.
Unless you practice, practice, and practice some more, I think I heard described best as when the SHTF your hands become flippers... try racking the slide on an auto or pulling the hammer back with a flipper. Muscle memory works best with constant reinforcement training.
Anyone with confidence issues with the manual of arms for an auto might consider training with a double action revolver for carry until their confidence issues are resolved.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:32 am to Bazzatcha
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and could care less
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:34 am to HubbaBubba
Did not read entire post but with an AR one in the chamber on safe. With a pistol one in the chamber and holstered. And if anyone carries a revolver anymore for Gods sake don’t do that stupid empty cylinder spot under the hammer.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:48 am to HubbaBubba
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a live round ready to fire concerns me as unsafe. Should I be? Statistically, is this even an issue I should be concerned with?
you should not. you are greatly diminishing your reaction abilities by having to rack the slide.
ABSOLUTELY one in the chamber. If you feel the need for a bit more cautiousness, trade in the p365 for something with a safety. at least thats a one handed motion.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:55 am to The Maj
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Several magnet options available as well
That’s what I have, CHAMBERED.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:02 am to HubbaBubba
Good video on the Pros and Cons
Video with Cut Out showing how a Semiautomatic Handgun works.
Video showing internal Striker Safety
All experts say to carry how you're most comfortable and how you've been trained. Once you decide to carry, it's a commitment. Most have one in the chamber ready to go for that instantaneous emergency where someone sneaks up on them. Some people just like to have a gun to help others if they happen to pass by and see something happening. But that's the way I like to look at whether to carry one in the chamber or not. Yes, if you want it to defend yourself. No, if you're just carrying to defend someone else.
A situation where carrying it loaded and ready to go would be when you need to remain silent. Say you're in a bank, restaurant or movie theater minding your own business. A gunman walks in with his high-powered AR and is looking for people to shoot. Everyone hides, but all of a sudden he hears you racking your slide behind a table. You're his first target instead of being able to remain hidden until he turns his back and you get the drop on him.
Say you see a guy running at you with a gun. Pulling out and firing is a lot easier than pulling your gun out and trying to rack the slide under pressure. Say your hand is sweaty and slips off the slide, so no round is chambered. The first video I listed talks about how most malfunctions happen when chambering a round. So a lot of things can go wrong while trying to get your pistol ready to fire.
Perhaps if you watch the videos and understand how a striker fired semi-auto handgun works, you'll feel more comfortable with how the built-in internal safeties work to prevent a gun from accidentally firing. Whichever way you choose, it's better than having nothing at all.
Video with Cut Out showing how a Semiautomatic Handgun works.
Video showing internal Striker Safety
All experts say to carry how you're most comfortable and how you've been trained. Once you decide to carry, it's a commitment. Most have one in the chamber ready to go for that instantaneous emergency where someone sneaks up on them. Some people just like to have a gun to help others if they happen to pass by and see something happening. But that's the way I like to look at whether to carry one in the chamber or not. Yes, if you want it to defend yourself. No, if you're just carrying to defend someone else.
A situation where carrying it loaded and ready to go would be when you need to remain silent. Say you're in a bank, restaurant or movie theater minding your own business. A gunman walks in with his high-powered AR and is looking for people to shoot. Everyone hides, but all of a sudden he hears you racking your slide behind a table. You're his first target instead of being able to remain hidden until he turns his back and you get the drop on him.
Say you see a guy running at you with a gun. Pulling out and firing is a lot easier than pulling your gun out and trying to rack the slide under pressure. Say your hand is sweaty and slips off the slide, so no round is chambered. The first video I listed talks about how most malfunctions happen when chambering a round. So a lot of things can go wrong while trying to get your pistol ready to fire.
Perhaps if you watch the videos and understand how a striker fired semi-auto handgun works, you'll feel more comfortable with how the built-in internal safeties work to prevent a gun from accidentally firing. Whichever way you choose, it's better than having nothing at all.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
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It was only a matter of time. I am just surprised that it took three pages. In all likelihood, the same posters throw a tantrum when the use of specific language works AGAINST them.
I hear you. I hate spelling Nazis, grammar police, and vocabulary commandos.
But just did a CC retrain this Saturday, and CC instructor stressed the need for proper terminology. His example was how American slang “automatic” as a substitute for semi automatic aids and abets Fake News “the military grade automatic assault gun shot him five times”.
He’s kinda right. However, I’m a poor student; I called the chamber/barrel “the pipe” in an earlier post on this thread.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:10 am to Bazzatcha
Having the gun on you is better than not having the gun on you. Having one in the chamber is better than not having one in the chamber in the same way.
Once you understand that the gun doesn't magically discharge without the trigger getting pulled, and actually believe that and start making trigger finger security muscle memory, that anxiety goes away. Get familiar with your firearms. Practice correct trigger discipline. Be a nazi about it in others around you.
Once you understand that the gun doesn't magically discharge without the trigger getting pulled, and actually believe that and start making trigger finger security muscle memory, that anxiety goes away. Get familiar with your firearms. Practice correct trigger discipline. Be a nazi about it in others around you.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:17 am to HubbaBubba
Familiarize yourself with your weapon and keep one in the chamber. Your weapon will not discharge unless you pull the trigger.
You being worried about the discharge means you are concerned about your trigger discipline. Work on that and it will be second nature for proper finger placement until you are ready to fire. Do your drills as your instructor suggested and always keep in mind your finger placement as you are doing them.
You being worried about the discharge means you are concerned about your trigger discipline. Work on that and it will be second nature for proper finger placement until you are ready to fire. Do your drills as your instructor suggested and always keep in mind your finger placement as you are doing them.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:17 am to HubbaBubba
Your instructor is right.....not having one in the chamber is almost as bad as having your guns locked up in your house.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:30 am to HubbaBubba
Watch the bodycam footage from Lancaster and see if you think the officer had time to load a round or if he would have gotten stabbed.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:37 am to HubbaBubba
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The P365XL and P365 do not have a safety.
Yes they do.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:38 am to HubbaBubba
1911. Stage 1. Safe and ready.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:50 am to HubbaBubba
Truth is a lot of people go through this
Carry around the house with a round chambered for a while and you'll grow comfortable with the fact nothing is going to happen. Also invest in good holsters and that'll also make you feel better.
Carry around the house with a round chambered for a while and you'll grow comfortable with the fact nothing is going to happen. Also invest in good holsters and that'll also make you feel better.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:03 am to 1BIGTigerFan
quote:Yes, you CAN purchase NOW a version with a safety, or not. I purchased w/o a safety.
The P365XL and P365 do not have a safety.
Yes they do.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:10 am to dakarx
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Anyone with confidence issues with the manual of arms for an auto might consider training with a double action revolver for carry
I've heard similar advice mirrored to me very recently with the simplicity of the revolver and the double action and trigger pull weight itself being a kind of built-in safety.
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:15 am to HubbaBubba
This is possibly the most ignorant thread on the entire internet. Yes, always have one in the chamber. If you can't handle a weapon because it's loaded, you have no business carrying it.
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