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re: On the subject of 'U.S. citizens being detained'

Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:06 am to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22748 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:06 am to
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but the rights of taxpayers don’t because they have to endure the higher prices and increased crime to assuage the guilt of him and others who were born white

In reality, the rights of citizens have to bend under the weight of a left wing, blue slip judiciary.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53646 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:09 am to
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how much do you care that a few people get racially profiled and inconvenienced for a few hours while their citizenship is verified?


I do not care, because I know that the process of doing good police work at times will inconvenience some innocent people.

I was at a white-tie affair and a young female servant in the house (I think she was Irish) was murdered with a candlestick. The police came to investigate and told us that nobody was allowed to leave the house. We all had to stay there, even though the murderer was just one person. The rest of us had to be inconvenienced while the police tried to find the murderer.

The process of good police work will often inconvenience innocent people.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179673 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:10 am to
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Despite being here 40 years, they've still got accents and don't carry their passport daily. It's enough that I'll oppose the current enforcement methods until we're sure people's rights aren't being violated for doing it the right way.



The number of citizens detained for a few hours, or even up to a day, has been very minimal when you consider the millions we have deported so far. It's a rounding error statistically.

If they are naturalized, their status can be verified by LEO fairly quickly.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48132 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:18 am to
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What do you carry on a daily basis that "confirms your citizenship?"

First of all - I am not worried about having to "prove my citizenship" on a daily basis. That is because I don't mingle with people who appear to be like criminals or aliens.

BUT - if someone wanted to see my driver's license I would show it. In the past ten years, I have been stopped for exceeding the speed limit a few times. - each interaction really imposed no real problem for me == I produced my ID each time and went on my merry way - usually with just a warning.

I have to produce ID when I cash a check or establish a new credit line or go see a new doctor.

SO - in your world, who would want to see my ID on a daily basis where you think this may be a problem for me?

You just want the masses of DEMOCRAT allies who are in out country ILLEGALLY to be able to enjoy all the benefits of citizenship with no regard for how it impacts REAL American citizens.

And the ONLY reasons you want them here are to pump up the CENSUS numbers to give DEMs additional congress representation, and to provide names on voter registration forms to be 'harvested" come election time, and to provide willing participants in any ILLEGAL activities you want to employ for creating chaos.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8965 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:23 am to
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Keep arguing about the paperwork and the US will no longer exist


Other than the government's own admitted mistake with Abrego-Garcia, I have never argued about "paperwork."

I'm disturbed by the assault on truth. Was Noem lying when she said ICE doesn't racially-profile? If not, why are we applauding the fact that ICE racially profiles because it is necessary on account of the Dims' attempt to destroy our country through the open border policy?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:25 am to
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First of all - I am not worried about having to "prove my citizenship" on a daily basis. That is because I don't mingle with people who appear to be like criminals or aliens.


“I’m a white man and therefore immune from all suspicion.”


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I have to produce ID when I cash a check or establish a new credit line or go see a new doctor.


And you think you should have to produce your identification to satisfy the whims of a peer? This is insane.

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with no regard for how it impacts REAL American citizens.
specifically how have you been personally impacted by illegal immigration?

You’re falling for outrage bait and fear mongering. Life is too short to spend all day pissed off at who people on TV and social media instruct you to be mad at.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:26 am to
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You’re falling for outrage bait and fear mongering.


Robbery - Residence-Gun, Illegal Re-Entry (INA SEC.101(a)(43)(O), 8USC1326 only)
Arrested:
Shreveport, Louisiana
Name:
DIMAS MATIAS-ROBLERO

Robbery - Street-Gun, Illegal Re-Entry (INA SEC.101(a)(43)(O), 8USC1326 only)
Arrested:
Shreveport, Louisiana
Name:
MARIO MATIAS-ROBLERO

Homicide, Assault, Aggravated Assault - Public Officer-Weapon
Arrested:
Cottonport, Louisiana
Name:
JOSE MENDOZA-TURCIOS
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:27 am to
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The process of good police work will often inconvenience innocent people.


ICE is conducting witch hunts, not police work.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:29 am to
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ICE is conducting witch hunts, not police work.



Assault
Arrested:
Monroe, Louisiana
Name:
MAXIMO SANCHEZ MACHADO

Possession Of Weapon, Driving Under Influence Liquor, Traffic Offense
Arrested:
Gretna, Louisiana
Name:
EDWIN MURILLO

Sexual Exploitation of Minor - Exhibition of Minor
Arrested:
Grayson, Louisiana
Name:
GUILLERMO BETANCOURTH DOMINGUEZ
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:31 am to
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SFP is a drama queen



Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22128 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:31 am to
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BUT - if someone wanted to see my driver's license I would show it. In the past ten years, I have been stopped for exceeding the speed limit a few times. - each interaction really imposed no real problem for me == I produced my ID each time and went on my merry way - usually with just a warning


An ID isn't proof of citizenship, which is the point of this thread.

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SO - in your world, who would want to see my ID on a daily basis where you think this may be a problem for me?


You can and should be detained if all you carry on you is an ID.

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And the ONLY reasons you want them here are to pump up the CENSUS numbers to give DEMs additional congress representation, and to provide names on voter registration forms to be 'harvested" come election time, and to provide willing participants in any ILLEGAL activities you want to employ for creating chaos.


I don't want illegals here at all. You do, because you think an ID is proof of citizenship. You love illegals and let them roam the streets.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:31 am to
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I don't want illegals here at all. You do, because you think an ID is proof of citizenship. You love illegals and let them roam the streets.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22128 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:32 am to
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Jbird


Dipshit who thought a drivers license is proof of citizenship. Needs to be detained by ICE for not being proficient in English, apparently.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22128 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:34 am to
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specifically how have you been personally impacted by illegal immigration?


This is a stupid take. Illegal immigration is incredibly harmful for multiple reasons, and is a slap in the face of immigrants who followed procedure and maintain legal status.

You'd do better to focus on the argument that this is impacting citizens rather than some emotional downplay of illegal immigration. "Aww shucks what harm are they doing" isn't convincing.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 9:36 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:35 am to
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Dipshit who thought a drivers license is proof of citizenship. Needs to be detained by ICE for not being proficient in English, apparently.

God dam you goofy fricker, IDGAF if they want to run my arse in, get it?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23301 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:37 am to
It is so very simple.....come legally and everything is OK.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:51 am to
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how much do you care that a few people get racially profiled and inconvenienced for a few hours while their citizenship is verified?

If we had a problem with white Irish terrorists invading the US and overburdening the welfare system in the process, and i hadn't bothered to take the necessary steps to prove that my white Irish arse was a born and bred American, I'd expect some inconveniences in the name of national security.

So how much do i care? Zero. If there was a way to care less than zero, that's where I'd be. I'm a firm belief in absolute verification.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22128 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:55 am to
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I'd expect some inconveniences in the name of national security.


This bullshite is what got us the PATRIOT act.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48132 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:02 am to
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I don't want illegals here at all. You do, because you think an ID is proof of citizenship. You love illegals and let them roam the streets.

This statement relieves me of having to expend any effort in rebutting your post.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:02 am to
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rather than some emotional downplay of illegal immigration.


What is emotional about asking someone who claims to have been impacted by illegal immigration to say how he’s been impacted?

Asking for evidence is emotional if a woman does it?

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Aww shucks what harm are they doing" isn't convincing.


Federal agents are having a much greater tangible negative impact on my life than illegal immigrants have.
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