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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:16 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:16 am to LARancher1991
He had a window - he had the GSs, the Hebrew State, Lebanon, China frozen as well as Russia - the EU showing their cowardice - and either miscalculated or became too confident and it has closed.
DJT is stuck and has one of two choices: resume with no intent of stopping - don't care if Ghandi steps in - or walk away and leave the ME more volatile than ever
DJT is stuck and has one of two choices: resume with no intent of stopping - don't care if Ghandi steps in - or walk away and leave the ME more volatile than ever
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:20 am to wfallstiger
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DJT is stuck and has one of two choices: resume with no intent of stopping - don't care if Ghandi steps in - or walk away and leave the ME more volatile than ever
Apparently Trump confirmed that Middle Eastern allies called and asked him to hold off on new attacks fearing new retaliation. In turn, Trump just said that Iran "still has some capacity" to retaliate which will not surprising directly contradicts his constant proclamations that Iran is "decimated" and "defeated". That type of language is significantly hurting the messaging around this conflict.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:29 am to TakingStock
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directly contradicts his constant proclamations that Iran is "decimated" and "defeated".
Damn, you don't use your brain, do you? Since their AF and navy are done, retaliation comes from drones and other things easily hidden in houses, schools, etc.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:34 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Damn, you don't use your brain, do you? Since their AF and navy are done, retaliation comes from drones and other things easily hidden in houses, schools, etc.
So Iran isn't defeated then?
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:34 am to TakingStock
Correct - folks that are knocked out and defeated don’t have the ability to hit back.
Iran can still hit back.
Trump has fricked this up no matter how badly you want to think otherwise.
Iran can still hit back.
Trump has fricked this up no matter how badly you want to think otherwise.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:42 am to BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:44 am to TrueTiger07
I give DJT a lot of rope but it is sure looking like between a rock and a hard place
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:53 am to LARancher1991
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Might be because they are losing faith in us to be able to make any actual lasting change in Iran.
Memories of Biden's bugout in the wee hours of the night in Afghanistan may haunt us for decades.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:56 am to TroutGuy
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?The Ministry of Defence announced that over the past 48 hours, UAE air defence systems successfully detected and intercepted six hostile UAVs that attempted to target civilian and vital areas in the country.
?The air defence forces successfully intercepted and neutralised the hostile targets with the highest levels of readiness and efficiency, without any human casualties or impact on the safety of vital facilities.
?As part of the ongoing investigations into the blatant attack on the Barakah Nuclear Energy Plant on 17th May 2026, the results of tracking and technical monitoring confirmed that the three UAVs involved in the incident , two of which were successfully intercepted, while the third struck an electricity generator outside the plant’s inner perimeter on that date. In addition to the UAVs intercepted subsequently, had all originated from Iraqi territory.
?The Ministry of Defence affirmed that the United Arab Emirates reserves its full right to take all necessary measures to protect its sovereignty and national security in accordance with international laws and conventions.
?The Ministry also stressed the full readiness of the Armed Forces to confront any threats targeting the country’s security and national assets.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:57 am to Dixie Normus
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Even if the reasons are legitimate, the perception of the moving goalposts for resuming war is weak. He needs to stop treating resuming operations and negotiating as mutually exclusive options. You can bomb the shite out of them (or give Israel the green light and provide support) and keep negotiating at the same time.
Agreed.
Resume bombing (especially of any IRGC that we can find) and dont stop. Tell Iran that the only way to stop would be unconditional surrender.
No deals, no 20 year ban on enrichment, no removal of sanctions... nothing.
Bomb them and keep killing them until find someone who will surrender. That person is out there, we just have to remove all the ones who arent willing to call it quits.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:07 am to alphaandomega
Regime change is the only realistic guarantee that they won't continue to pursue nuclear weapons.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:27 am to BayouBengal51
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US Central Command chief Brad Cooper said Iran had hanged dozens of people since the ceasefire.
If I was IRGC that is what I would be doing. Someone made the comment to keep killing IRGC until we find the person who will unconditionally surrender. If we keep stringing this action out there may be no one left to fight the IRGC.
Trump told the people to wait and help is on the way. I am beginning to see the reason for the TACO moniker.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:45 am to TakingStock
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So Iran isn't defeated then?
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TakingStock
Have you taken a history class? It's a well-established fact that after every war—except for the Korean War, because it is still truly ongoing and no one has been "defeated"—there are always remnants or pockets of resistance, even in defeat.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:53 am to sms151t
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Have you taken a history class? It's a well-established fact that after every war—except for the Korean War, because it is still truly ongoing and no one has been "defeated"—there are always remnants or pockets of resistance, even in defeat.
Yes, but Trump's implication throughout his Truths and messaging regarding Iran being "defeated" is that they don't pose a threat anymore. He's backtracking on that now since there really is no easy exit ramp here and we've entered into a stalemate of asymmetric warfare that will likely keep oil prices above $90 for the next year at least.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:05 pm to TakingStock
but but but but but but
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:17 pm to BayouBengal51
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US Central Command chief Brad Cooper said Iran had hanged dozens of people since the ceasefire.
This should be of no surprise to anyone. One of the main guys we are negotiating with, Ghalibaf, advocated for the continued brutal crackdown on Iranian protesters via the use of the death penalty. He's done that since this war kicked off and he found himself in a position with a little more power.
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:30 pm to LegendInMyMind
Well, here we go again. Joint operation preparations complete and decision from Trump expected soon. Day 41.
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:35 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:45 pm to TakingStock
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Yes, but Trump's implication throughout his Truths and messaging regarding Iran being "defeated" is that they don't pose a threat anymore
Were you seriously stupid enough to believe that? Do you realize we were at war? Messaging is not for us. It is for Iran.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:51 pm to TroutGuy
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TRUMP SAYS TIMEFRAME FOR IRAN IS 2-3 DAYS, POSSIBLY UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK.
That would actually make sense.
Memorial weekend. Stock market closed for 3 straight days.
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