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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:35 am to wdhalgren
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:35 am to wdhalgren
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Sorry, but based on facts, I'm siding with the president on this forecast.
Perhaps Fly is in possession of facts that POTUS isn’t aware of. That’s the only rational explanation for his fantasy forecast.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:49 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:49 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:50 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:53 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:54 am to hawgfaninc
I’m surprised Fetterman hasn’t had an “accident” yet.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:55 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:56 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:56 am to PsychTiger
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Perhaps Fly is in possession of facts that POTUS isn’t aware of. That’s the only rational explanation for his fantasy forecast.
He seems to be one of the folks who are obsessed with the idea that we're doing Israel's bidding. When you start from there, it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to hold ground. Like saying that Trump "just handed Iran a weapon" of blocking the strait of Hormuz. You have to ignore the fact that the Iranian regime has been openly brandishing that weapon since the early 80's; multiple articles from multiple sources document the threats over the years. They pulled it out for decades, any time anyone objected to their disruptive and deadly militant activities in the region. Nobody ever had the gumption to stand up to them, and meanwhile they were steadily building their forces to do exactly that, plus enriching Uranium and expanding the influence of their militia way beyond the Persian Gulf and into our hemisphere.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:25 pm to wdhalgren
No facts from you, and no recognition of anything that does not fit your Israel-first mindset.
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Conjecture, no proof
So Gulf oil shipping is fine now? You need to read the news.
No proof, no facts. Did you read the reports that Netanyahu told Trump the Iranian population would rise up and overthrow the Iranian regime within one week after USA and Israel attacked Iran? ….oh, that’s right, you do not read anything except the propaganda that supports your narrative.
I want to support the President in this, but it is a terrible waste of money and lives to further another country’s interest. I wish he would put America First.
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Their ability to remain in control of Iran
Conjecture, no proof
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…much less control Gulf oil shipping
So Gulf oil shipping is fine now? You need to read the news.
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…as they grow bankrupt…their population grows more restive…
No proof, no facts. Did you read the reports that Netanyahu told Trump the Iranian population would rise up and overthrow the Iranian regime within one week after USA and Israel attacked Iran? ….oh, that’s right, you do not read anything except the propaganda that supports your narrative.
I want to support the President in this, but it is a terrible waste of money and lives to further another country’s interest. I wish he would put America First.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:51 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:58 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/3/26 at 12:58 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Their ability to remain in control of Iran
No facts from you....Conjecture, no proof
This is how you expose yourself. When you can't argue in good faith, you cut out a piece of a sentence and misrepresent what the other person just finished writing. I'll provide the entire sentence for you.
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Their ability to remain in control of Iran, much less threaten Gulf Oil shipping for decades, is now in question.
That statement, taken as a whole, is a fact.
Unlike your assertion, "We just handed a weapon to Iran that they will now use against the world for decades.", which is stated as fact, but clearly is conjecture. It also clearly ignores the fact that the Iranian regime is now severely weakened and at risk of failing.
I'm left to conclude that you're incapable of debating what I say, so you resort to strawman arguments. Or maybe I should give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's a comprehension issue.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:08 pm to hawgfaninc
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We published in the edition | Senior officials in Israel to News 14: "A return to fighting in Iran is dictated by reality, this is not a question of whether but when."
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:18 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:19 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:27 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:56 pm to wdhalgren
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That statement taken as a whole, is a fact.
No, it is not. What is your proof?
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Ignores the fact that the Iranian regime is severely weakened.
This is also not a fact. How do you know this? Is it like when Netanyahu told Trump the regime would fall a week after the bombing started? How did that work out?
There probably is a comprehension issue, but it is not with me.
Here are some facts for you. Distances to countries that are perceived as enemies/potential enemies and only one of them does not have nuclear weapons. Guess which one we decided to attack due to fear of nuclear weapons?
USA to Iran - 7,100 miles
USA to China - 7,058 miles
USA to North Korea - 3,600 miles
USA to Russia - less than 10 miles (islands in the Bering Strait)
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:58 pm to FlyDownTheField83
The Iranian military isn't diminished is your argument?
The political leadership hasn't been affected?
The political leadership hasn't been affected?
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