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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:18 am to Ailsa
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:18 am to Ailsa
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President Trump isn't just befuddling foreign leaders and financial markets with his mixed signals on Iran. Advisers who speak regularly with the president tell Axios they're just as uncertain.
Why it matters: Trump's off-the-cuff musings and Truth Social postings can have life-or-death consequences for the war, and massive implications for the market. Then the cycle restarts without any lasting clarity.
Between the lines: Some Trump aides and allies say he's mostly improvising rather than following any clear plan.
He likes to keep his options open, spitball with different audiences, then capitalize if he thinks he sees an opportunity, they say.
Aides have been convinced at various points that Trump was leaning toward a major escalation, and at others that he was eager for a swift resolution. "Nobody knows in the end what he's really thinking," a senior adviser said.
"They had a plan for the first week and since then, they are making the plan up as they go along," a former U.S. official said.
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:20 am to hawgfaninc
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Iran was trying to use the North Korean model to get a nuke: create sufficient conventional deterrence so you won’t be challenged in acquiring one (it’s called the Seoul Hostage Problem).
This has been explained over and over since day one.
Everyone claiming shifting goalposts or no imminent threat has been lying.
The reason North Korea was allowed to get nukes is because Seoul (and its 10 million inhabitants) is within artillery and rocket range of North Korea.
During the 1994 nuclear crisis, the Clinton administration seriously considered airstrikes on North Korea’s Yongbyon reactor but backed off precisely because of the artillery threat to Seoul.
Iran was trying to accomplish the same by stockpiling missiles and drones which would have had the same deterrent effect. The proof is what Iran has been doing in the past month: attacking all its neighbors in order to pressure the US to stop attacking it
Beyond this, they were building medium-range ballistic missiles that could reach Paris and London, meaning all of Europe could be held hostage as they built a nuclear bomb.
The reason Iran has not built a nuclear weapon until now is not because it couldn’t, but because it knew it would be attacked and denied this capability.
So by allowing them to continue developing this conventional deterrence, you would be allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
And unlike North Korea, Iran is led by an eschatological death cult
Reagan saw nuclear mutually assured destruction (MAD) as both morally bankrupt (because of the innocent-body-count problem) and dangerously fragile because it assumed flawless rationality between adversaries…this means it only takes one irrational actor to destroy the world.
Working backwards from the conclusion that Iran’s Islamist regime must never have a nuclear weapon, it was necessary for the US to attack Iran to deny it the conventional capacity to hold the entire eastern hemisphere hostage.
Every European leader knows this and behind the scenes praises the US for this action. But they are cowards, held hostage by their own internal Muslim populations, and so adopt these ridiculous public positions.
This was never about Israel. And if your argument is that Iran should be allowed to get a nuclear weapon then you are a fool and a traitor to western civilization…you’re a useful idiot
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And here’s another thing for my European brothers and sisters to consider
The United States and Israel were never going to allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon
So if this didn’t happen now, it would’ve happened in a year or two, but the difference is that what you see happening to the GCC (having their civilians and infrastructure bombed) would be happening all over Europe
Instead of the Seoul Hostage Problem, you’d have the Europe Hostage Problem
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:22 am to omegaman66
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BREAKING: Nonstop heavy airstrikes are pounding Iran’s southern coastline, with multiple targets hit in and around Bandar Abbas, a key strategic port near the Strait of Hormuz. Could this be the answer as to where the MEU is headed?
Yes. No. Only the jarheads know.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:23 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:31 am to lsutiger90
You’re responding to a dotard.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:35 am to hawgfaninc
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The Qatari Ministry of Defense announces that the State of Qatar was subjected to targeting by (3) cruise missiles from Iran, today Wednesday, and our armed forces "by the grace of God" succeeded in intercepting two missiles, while the third missile struck an oil tanker leased to QatarEnergy in the economic waters of the State of Qatar, and procedures were taken and coordination with the relevant authorities to evacuate the oil tanker, which has a crew of (21) persons, without any human casualties.
May God protect Qatar, its Amir, its people, and the residents on its land.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:35 am to Decatur
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"They had a plan for the first week and since then, they are making the plan up as they go along," a former U.S. official said.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:39 am to hawgfaninc
starmer is such a swish. He will lead the UK in the war and Hormus crisis by having a meeting. It will not be easy he sez
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:51 am to Trevaylin
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"They had a plan for the first week and since then, they are making the plan up as they go along," a former U.S. official said.
Someone has been talking to Joe Kent.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:09 am to Trevaylin
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Iran's new regime President? Who the fudge is that? The president of Iran is still the same scumbag it has always been.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:10 am to lsutiger90
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I think invading another country to support Iran would have some international consequences?
They are TikTok warriors anyway and deployed to shoot up bushes in Ukraine when they aren't deployed to shoot Russian deserters
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:25 am to JellyRoll
No initial war plan last long. But I would bet the war planners had whatever contingency planned out beforehand and adjusted.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:33 am to Decatur
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Decatur
If this board was real life, you would very much be considered an enemy of the state.
Not only are you wrong all the time, but you continually post smut. Have you considered having a discussion instead of vomiting garbage links from less than credible sources like "Axios"?
Seriously, open your mind for once.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:34 am to hawgfaninc
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“This is a regime led by people who believe that it is their calling and their purpose in life to usher in the end of the world.”
“We had to act.”
Umm - thats our side (both Israel and US) who have people trying to usher in the end of the world
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:37 am to WeeWee
This recent push towards peace was likely a bluff to "reset" the thinking. Our lads are now mostly in position and they will be sent on a very deadly mission to capture (and hold) Kharg Island under persistent fire.
God please let me be wrong.
God please let me be wrong.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:40 am to DMAN1968
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a former U.S. official
Could be Brennan, Susan Rice, John Bolton, Joe who used to work in the Senate cafeteria...
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:41 am to idlewatcher
Axios has been well sourced throughout this conflict. Barak Ravid and Marc Caputo have a direct line to the administration. Sorry if that ruins your safe space.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:43 am to SirWinston
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Umm - thats our side (both Israel and US) who have people trying to usher in the end of the world
No, that was the prior administration that started with obumma. They were focused first on sabotaging America to weaken our abilities while initiating the same across Europe.
DEI, the infusion of illegals, NWO - the list is known and long….
They wanted everyone brown and dependent on government.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:48 am to cypher
May Allah protect Qatar, its Amir, its people, and the residents on its land.
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:49 am to Tigerswillprevail
Amen
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