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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:12 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:12 am to
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 12:35 am to
Russia is going bankrupt and China's economy is cooling. If anyone thinks Russia and China are going to prop up Iran's economy, they are an idiot. If the Iranians don't have money to pay their army and give money to their proxies, their regime is going to come crashing down. There are only about 2.5-3 million hardcore supporters of the regime. When things get bad enough, the rest of the 90 million people are going to rise up and take matters into their own hands. The Iranian regime is on a downward spiral that is going to continue.

Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:28 am to
How is Russia and China helping Iran sell oil...right now? Last I heard no tankers were coming or going to Iran.

In almost all Iranian communications the first thing they seem to mention is unfreezing cash assets. Kind of tells me the money crunch is pretty bad for them.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:34 am to
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The blockade is destroying their economy.


Sure. Thats where China and Russia are helping them. Like they've done for years despite Western sanctions


Wait, we have had the blockade for years???

The fox attachment is historically what chini has done, its tough to "bypass" a blockage of your ports.

They have stopped paying their regular army, that tells you how tight funding currently is. If you cant pay your military in the middle of a war, well I wouldnt be certain they will "survive".
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 5:50 am to
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Do we know who carried out the assassination?


My guess is Israel. They are really good at that kind of thing.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 5:57 am to
Some positive action during the night. A few more bad guys killed, and a little more punishment handed out. Good to hear.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:00 am to
Al Jazeera's morning report:

US, Iran trade new attacks amid talks: Here’s what we know

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United States President Donald Trump says he is close to achieving a “very good deal” with Iran, but Washington and Tehran have been engaged in a new exchange of fire, dimming hopes of finalising a deal to end the war.

Late on Sunday in a post on X, the US military’s Central Command (CENTCOM) said it struck Iranian military sites over the weekend, and on Monday, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said it retaliated by targetting a US base in the Gulf region.

While a ceasefire has been in place between the US and Iran since April 8, the warring parties have continued to sporadically attack each others’ military assets.

Moreover, Iran’s de facto blockade of the Strait of Hormuz and a naval blockade of Iranian ports by the Trump administration has heightened tensions.

As diplomacy aimed at a more durable peace agreement between the two countries drags on, here’s what we know about the latest attacks between the US and Iran:


It is a very long read. Here is a link to the full report.
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:24 am to
Iran is still selling oil to them just no where near the volume that they were. Oil is still being sent to Russia through the Caspian Sea. China is still getting it through a railway corridor that was jointly built by Iran and China and became operational in early 2025. Like I said nowhere near the volume that passes through the Strait but they are still getting some of it out.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:01 am to
I suspect that Trump is holding out for a civil war among the Iranian factions.

Hillary was able to do that in Libya by providing air support to various selected factions. The down side of that was Hillary selecting factions worse than Gadhafi.

Trump and Israel won't make that kind of mistake if indeed that's what's going on.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:06 am to
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Wait, we have had the blockade for years???


No. Not what was said. China has been helping Iran for years. They have each helped each other in various ways.


Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:09 am to
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. The down side of that was Hillary selecting factions worse than Gadhafi.


By design. They knew exactly who they were supporting.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:20 am to
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Last night at 11 p.m. ET, U.S. forces successfully intercepted two Iranian ballistic missiles targeting American forces based in Kuwait. These missiles were immediately defeated and no American personnel were harmed.

U.S. Central Command remains vigilant and will continue to protect our forces from Iranian aggression while supporting the ongoing ceasefire.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:21 am to
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BREAKING: Iran's Tasnim News:

The Iranian negotiation team will stop talks and exchange of texts through intermediaries.

- Tasnim's information indicates that given the continuation of the Zionist regime's crimes in Lebanon and considering that Lebanon was among the preconditions for the ceasefire, and now this ceasefire has been violated on all fronts including Lebanon, the Iranian negotiation team will stop "talks and exchange of texts through intermediaries".

- The immediate cessation of the aggressive and brutal operations of the Zionist regime's army in Gaza and Lebanon and the necessity of the regime's full withdrawal from the occupied areas in Lebanon have been emphasized by Iranian officials and negotiators, and until Iran's and the resistance's views on this matter are met, no dialogue will take place.

- Also, the resistance front and Iran have resolved to completely block the Strait of Hormuz and activate other fronts including the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, in order to punish the Zionists and their supporters.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:31 am to
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. The down side of that was Hillary selecting factions worse than Gadhafi.


By design. They knew exactly who they were supporting.


Like Hillary, Obama and the idiots in their camp supported Arab Spring.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:32 am to
Need to see an A-10 or F-18 do a brrrrrrrrttttt run on these boats.

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Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:35 am to
Being on one of those boats is a death sentence
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 8:36 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:38 am to
But they're just simple fishermen, right?
Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:42 am to
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I suspect that Trump is holding out for a civil war among the Iranian factions.

Hillary was able to do that in Libya by providing air support to various selected factions. The down side of that was Hillary selecting factions worse than Gadhafi.

Trump and Israel won't make that kind of mistake if indeed that's what's going on


There's a huge difference between a theocracy and an autocracy. Religion, especially in its most extreme forms, muddies the water when it comes to control of the military and people.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:56 am to
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I suspect that Trump is holding out for a civil war among the Iranian factions.
This would be historically horrible, not to mention categorically evil.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 9:20 am
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:56 am to
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Religion, especially in its most extreme forms, muddies the water when it comes to control of the military and people.


A lot of people still don't realize that the IRGC does not exist to protect Iran. It exists to protect the Islamic Republic itself. It's purpose is to keep the regime intact, in power and to stomp out any resistance to the regime. When the SHTF, its only goal is to make sure that the Mullahs retain power and that the Islamic Revolution continues.

The artesh, is supposed to be for the national defense of the country, but the IRGC has placed leaders in it at every level to make sure it does not try to turn against the regime.

Both organizations supposedly operate separately and even have their own independent air force units. Earlier this year when some F-4's were shot down internally during training exercises, they were Iranian Air Force jets that were shot down by the IRGC Aeroforce. That is how segregated they are at times. IRGC shot those jets down because either they viewed them as a threat or IAF pissed off someone in the IRGC command structure.
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