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Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:55 pm to OldManRiver
No that hasn't come up. they have been reading news reports though so it's only a matter of time. that would be a huge development if true.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:57 pm to markinkaty
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What is Lindell's new electoral vote count?
Don’t know EC off the top of my head, but Lindell changed Biden from pop. 68 to 72-74
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:57 pm to oklahogjr
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so, why are they so free wheeling with that but the packets are behind a locked door till the last minute.
My guess is that they are on a schedule …. The final thing will be the recap and distribution of the packets to the public. For the next few weeks anyone who wants to tool around the data will be able to and they will consume social media with what they discover. Both sides will be provided the same information and the same ability to accuse and refute all accusations. The public will decide based on all evidence available.
Everyone complaining about not getting concrete evidence needs to realize that IF a group of well funded, well connected criminals with access to the FBI/CIA/NSA tech were you commit the biggest crime in US history they won’t just leave breadcrumbs to incriminate themselves. They will do anything and everything to cover their tracks. But it’s impossible to completely hide anything that’s been transmitted over the internet.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:58 pm to YankeeBama
I forgot how many EVs were in each state?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:59 pm to OldManRiver
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Still, Mr. Merritt said, the data did contain important “forensic” evidence of manipulated voters.
from your article
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:59 pm to oklahogjr
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My guess
Didn't ask for you to guess.
An IT guy who didn't know that Ethernet ports were comm ports wants everybody to know what being embarrassed is.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:00 pm to CorchJay
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You can't convince someone that doesn't want convincing or even open to the idea
I hear you, but that’s what we are up against “out there”. That’s the mindset of the people that need to be convinced. All I’m saying.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:00 pm to chaad
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My guess is that they are on a schedule
I’m starting to fall in this camp now. He has been peacocking these packets for months.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:00 pm to oklahogjr
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this morning they clearly opened a new piece of evidence and just poked around on screen without knowing anything about it
Total lie from you.
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or any ability to give any context. live on stage for a couple hours, just opening and reading random logs.
Wrong and another lie from you.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:01 pm to GodnCountry
Hey now, quiet down. we're patiently waiting for Mike to stumble on all the articles with his own team saying the data isn't real.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:03 pm to dgnx6
I know, but it's contradictory to say
and then say there is "forensic" evidence of anything if there isn't any actual data
Regardless, this is the best part of the article
That's quite the blunt description of the data they got
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But the data Mr. Montgomery sent contains no packet captures and cannot be used to validate Mr. Lindell’s marquee theory, which he planned to unveil at the symposium, said the two experts.
and then say there is "forensic" evidence of anything if there isn't any actual data
Regardless, this is the best part of the article
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“We were handed a turd,” he said. “And I had to take that turd and turn it into a diamond. And that’s what I think we did.”
That's quite the blunt description of the data they got
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:23 pm to CorchJay
For someone who doesn't care about Lindell being right, you sure seem angry at those that aren't convinced and you're posting a lot in this thread.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:24 pm to TheBoo
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You can't convince someone that doesn't want convincing or even open to the idea
I hear you, but that’s what we are up against “out there”. That’s the mindset of the people that need to be convinced. All I’m saying.
Exactly. Honestly this whole production would not have been such a big deal to everyone if ML hadn't hyped it so much. If it was simply marketed as a fact finding conference, with the caveat that everyone was going into with an open mind, I don't think people would be dogging on him so much.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:24 pm to OldManRiver
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and then say there is "forensic" evidence of anything if there isn't any actual data
There has been a shitload of data being passed out to the blue check assholes. They are harping on the packet captures. I think they will be released at the end, for media positioning. Kudos to Lindell, if so.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:28 pm to burger bearcat
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Exactly. Honestly this whole production would not have been such a big deal to everyone if ML hadn't hyped it so much. If it was simply marketed as a fact finding conference, with the caveat that everyone was going into with an open mind, I don't think people would be dogging on him so much.
That would have been totally different thing though. especially if they said hey we've got these images and we want cyber security experts to investigate.
this was i'll give you 5 million dollars if you can prove me wrong. I've got absolute proof so good the supreme court will vote 9-0 with trump back in office by fall level hype.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:29 pm to chaad
quote:Tick fricking Tock
My guess is that they are on a schedule …. The final thing will be the recap and distribution of the packets to the public. For the next few weeks anyone who wants to tool around the data will be able to and they will consume social media with what they discover. Both sides will be provided the same information and the same ability to accuse and refute all accusations. The public will decide based on all evidence available.
Everyone complaining about not getting concrete evidence needs to realize that IF a group of well funded, well connected criminals with access to the FBI/CIA/NSA tech were you commit the biggest crime in US history they won’t just leave breadcrumbs to incriminate themselves. They will do anything and everything to cover their tracks. But it’s impossible to completely hide anything that’s been transmitted over the internet.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:31 pm to YankeeBama
tough crowd for the granite state.
making free pillow jokes, bold choice.
making free pillow jokes, bold choice.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:34 pm to YankeeBama
The reason why every body is harping on the packet captures is because
1) Mike himself touted them for months leading up to this thing. In was in the marketing materials for the program
2) Mike has been showing slide after slide of vote totals that were "hacked" by China and manipulated. He has stated multiple times China directly infiltrated and changed vote totals.
3) Without the packet captures or really any evidence to back up those claims, they are just numbers on a screen and a lot of hot air
Did they show that the machines used here in the states can be compromised? Yes. Did they raise interesting points based on the machine images, and potentially found things that might not be valid? Yes. All good things, IMO.
But at the end of the day, assuming the article I posted earlier is legit and those "packet captures" don't see the light of day, you aren't any closer to proving the election was hacked now than 3 days before
1) Mike himself touted them for months leading up to this thing. In was in the marketing materials for the program
2) Mike has been showing slide after slide of vote totals that were "hacked" by China and manipulated. He has stated multiple times China directly infiltrated and changed vote totals.
3) Without the packet captures or really any evidence to back up those claims, they are just numbers on a screen and a lot of hot air
Did they show that the machines used here in the states can be compromised? Yes. Did they raise interesting points based on the machine images, and potentially found things that might not be valid? Yes. All good things, IMO.
But at the end of the day, assuming the article I posted earlier is legit and those "packet captures" don't see the light of day, you aren't any closer to proving the election was hacked now than 3 days before
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:35 pm to oklahogjr
I mean they found fraud in NH
And the argument was, well its not enough to call it widespread.
Its total bs.
The fricking machines cant read ballots folded wrong.
They shouldnt have to be told this shite.
Our elections are a complete joke with or without china hacking it.
I already knew fraud happens in elections, but i didnt realize what a complete shite operation we were running.
And the argument was, well its not enough to call it widespread.
Its total bs.
The fricking machines cant read ballots folded wrong.
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The auditors issued a series of recommendations to avoid future problems.
-- “Consider not folding ballots at all …. Miscounts aside, folded ballots are liable to misfeed, complicating ballot processing on election day. Sending out ballots flat, in larger envelopes, could be a worthwhile investment,” despite a likely extra cost.
-- “Clearly instruct election officials to fold absentee ballots along the score lines and to double-check the location of the folds.”
-- “Set aside ballots with folds through vote targets to be counted by hand. Ballots marked in pencil or colored ink that might not be counted also should be set aside for hand-counting.”
-- “If feasible, dedicate one scanner exclusively to absentee ballots, to provide an easy check on how many have been counted. Check the affidavit envelopes for ballots that have been overlooked.”
-- Improve the maintenance of vote-counting machines.
They also suggested that the town conduct “routine risk-limiting audits on all election results,” keep ballots from different scanners or counting methods, such as hand counts, separate from each other to “simplify the task of isolating discrepancies and tracing their causes,” and conduct “more detailed accounting” of ballots, write-in votes, undervotes and overvotes.
They shouldnt have to be told this shite.
Our elections are a complete joke with or without china hacking it.
I already knew fraud happens in elections, but i didnt realize what a complete shite operation we were running.
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