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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:11 pm to
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Similar to how you stop anyone from legally purchasing something
not an answer. a bump stock can be made at home

hell, a pressure cooker can be made into a bomb for crying out loud.

care to try again?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:14 pm to
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If you don't break the law, you have nothing to worry about
totally not true and that's one of the MAIN POINTS of this thread. it's like you don't even know what slippery slope means

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I disagree, and you've proven to not be honest on this issue in the past
says the cat4 who thinks bump stocks can be stopped
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
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That's not as likely to happen as your firearm being used on one of your family members, by orders of magnitude.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. the likelihood is irrelevant as i've been telling you over and over. if that were true you would have banned cars, deer and old age forever ago

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Stop living in a world bounded by your fear of things that will never happen.
you've already admitted that gun owners have thwarted crimes so now you're contradicting yourself
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46352 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:21 pm to
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we can take steps to limit the possibility one occurs
YES. by addressing the CAUSE, not the EFFECT.

again - PRESSURE COOKER

heck, utah school bomb just yesterday
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:23 pm to
so I guess string will be illegal if I won a Mini 14. Wait... I own a Mini 14
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 6:24 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:28 pm to
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But not the only way to restrict access
restricting access, i.e. limiting freedom, is addressing the effect, not the cause

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I see the lives it will save.
no, you don't. you can't prove that:

1. the legislation was actually the cause of any decrease. would you like to know why i can say that with certainty?
2. people won't turn to something else. iow, that the law will make the situation better
3. the law will prevent people from illegally acquiring the gun and use it in a mass killing, like what happened in vegas
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:29 pm to
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Fewer deaths
you can't prove there were fewer deaths as a result of anything. do you want to know how i can say that with certainty?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:31 pm to
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It does
prove it. LAS VEGAS

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Nah
head in sand.

my word you are freaking deranged. you can't even admit basic reality like the vegas situation. you can't even acknowledge the reality of a slippery slope.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:33 pm to
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it's addressing both the cause and the effect
you are wrong. do you even know what the cause is? hint - it's present when people use fertilizer bombs, pressure cookers, cars, knives, etc to kill other people

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You not knowing how to read a chart doesn't make an argument stupid
oh i can read the chart. i can also see that it's not relevant and that you can't prove that any gun laws prevented any deaths. do you want to know how i can say that with certainty?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:35 pm to
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There has not, however, been a corresponding global reduction in gun crime in the US with respect to the rest of the world.
not that this has any meaning in regards to the topic
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:37 pm to
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has no relevant civilian use
i've told you multiple times this means nothing. it has no bearing on anything. this is a totally artificial criterion manufactured by people who can't think straight on the issue
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:41 pm to
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with other comparable countries
still not a thing. continuing to use this like it means something shows you don't even understand the issue being discussed.

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enact stricter gun laws to save lives?
like europe doesn't even exist. like chicago doesn't even exist

this is an exercise in trying to converse with a delusional person

pick a "comparable" country and justify your criteria
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:43 pm to
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The US firearm death rate would lower to be in line (or better) than comparable countries.
prove that legislation can do this without failing to acknowledge what happened in vegas
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:46 pm to
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The US firearm death rate would lower to be in line (or better) than comparable countries.
prove that legislation can do this without failing to acknowledge what happened in vegas

prove that legislation can stop people from acquiring the gun in question

prove that legislation can stop mass killings with the gun in question

prove that legislation can prevent people from turning to some other thing like fertilizer bombs in rental trucks in front of large federal buildings
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45856 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:47 pm to
Dude....you don't have to reply to every one of her posts.

She's just going to cherry pick which ones she responds to anyway and patently ignore shite she can't twist or move the goal posts on.

It's her thing.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63232 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:50 pm to
Out law string! Weapon of war!!
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:51 pm to
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There will always be people who are going to kill no matter what
SO WHAT GOOD IS TAKING AWAY GUNS FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS?!?!? we could have just skipped all the bull crap for 20+ pages. what a waste of time

either you are a uber skilled troll or you are deranged.

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But that's a small proportion of the overall
you have absolutely no way to prove the numbers would go down as a result of any legislation. you even just admitted the cause
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15062 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:53 pm to
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She's just going to cherry pick which ones she responds to anyway and patently ignore shite she can't twist or move the goal posts on.


#thetruth
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:54 pm to
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wickowick
that picture is totally shopped. there's no way that's real. bamaatl swears that if they are banned, there's no way they could exist.
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