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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:30 pm to bfniii
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:30 pm to bfniii
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it's practically the whole nation, not "just" this board
Uhhh...you should get out more.
There is dramatic supermajority support for my positions. You're in the extreme minority of the nation's views on this matter.
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except that it's not.
Except that it is. You are, once again, wrong.
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no it didn't.
It did. Keep up, buddy!
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i've asked several questions that you have no answer for.
In no way have you done such a thing. It's fun that you think that, though.
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:30 pm to BamaAtl
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There's clearly a difference, as identified by the largest gun sellers in the nation
Wal-mart and Dicks are not the largest gun sellers in the nation!
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:31 pm to BamaAtl
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PRETTY RELEVANT when we're discussing gun deaths and how to reduce them, and you're talking about knives.
What is the weapon most likely to cause gun deaths?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:36 pm to bfniii
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prove there's an "epidemic"
You don't know what that word means. I'm sure you've heard it before, but you clearly don't understand it if you need it spelled out. But sure:
Given our relative wealth and stability/peacefulness, we would expect that our gun violence rates would be in line with other countries that share our characteristics.
However, this is not the case. We see a much higher than expected rate of gun violence in the US when controlling for factors such as SES. That's the textbook definition of an epidemic - a higher than expected occurrence of an event within a population.
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1. the us is not comparable to other nations in this regard for multiple reasons but i don't expect you to be able to understand the reasons
Yeah, this is just wrong. The US is compared to other similar countries all the time in every facet of life - to say gun violence is some unique outlier that we're a special snowflake on is, at best, displaying your ignorance.
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2. other nations with stricter gun laws have, GASP, gun violence too?!?
Well, sure. Again, the expectation is not go get to zero. Those other nations with stricter gun laws have MUCH LOWER rates of gun violence than in the US. Why? Because stricter gun laws mean fewer guns, and fewer guns = fewer gun deaths.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:37 pm to bfniii
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a bump stock can be made at home
So can many things. But making them illegal makes them harder to acquire, which makes them less likely to be used.
Let me know when you understand that. It'll be good for you to learn it before you head off to college.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:38 pm to BamaAtl
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:38 pm to BamaAtl
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with other countries that share our characteristics.
Be more specific.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:38 pm to bfniii
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the likelihood is irrelevant
The likelihood is the most relevant piece of information for you to learn today.
Owning a gun does not protect you - it puts you at risk.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:38 pm to BamaAtl
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But making them illegal makes them harder to acquire, which makes them less likely to be used.
Worked great with the war on drugs. And drugs aren't even a constitutional right. I'm guessing "harder to get" and "less likely to be used" don't pas the strict scrutiny standard. What do you think?
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:39 pm to BamaAtl
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:39 pm to BamaAtl
[quote] But making them illegal makes them harder to acquire, which makes them less likely to be used.
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Like drugs?
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Like drugs?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:39 pm to bfniii
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YES. by addressing the CAUSE, not the EFFECT.
The CAUSE is it's too easy to purchase a gun in this country.
The EFFECT is dead children.
And the Utah school bomb didn't work, and didn't injure anyone. You think that would have been the case if the kid brought a gun to school? Even you should know better on that one. Even you.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I think I've unlocked the "Completely Ignored" achievement
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:40 pm to bfniii
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would you like to know why i can say that with certainty?
The same way you say anything with certainty - you're ignorant and have the mistaken belief that what's been fed to you by the NRA are facts, not propaganda.
It means you're wrong, but sure of your wrongness.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:40 pm to BamaAtl
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Owning a gun does not protect you - it puts you at risk.
What do you think Stephen Williford would say about that?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:41 pm to bfniii
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prove it. LAS VEGAS
Glad you're on board with banning the sale of bump stocks now. I knew you'd see the light!
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:41 pm to bfniii
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oh i can read the chart
I disagree, and submit your ignorance in discussing it as proof.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:41 pm to BamaAtl
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fewer guns = fewer gun deaths
Still not important.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:42 pm to bfniii
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pick a "comparable" country and justify your criteria
OECD - largely similar economic status
See, that was easy!
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:42 pm to BamaAtl
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The EFFECT is dead children.
Many. Hundreds even.
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