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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:28 pm to SidewalkDawg
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:28 pm to SidewalkDawg
And there isn't an amendment to the constitution guaranteeing citizens rights to have access to the internet. This is something we can actually do.
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:28 pm to BamaAtl
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homicide rate
Still not important.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:29 pm to ShortyRob
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Can you define what you consider "fixed"?
The US firearm death rate would lower to be in line (or better) than comparable countries.
I already said this - are you glossing over it because you don't understand it, or because it doesn't make a point you are comfortable trying to argue against?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:29 pm to ShortyRob
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Did you ever answer if you assigned value to gun ownership?
I answered. You never did answer what you considered success re: inaction.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:30 pm to BamaAtl
Since you seemed to have missed this, I'll post it again for you:
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The Colt AR-15 isn't the weapon developed by ArmaLite for the military.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:31 pm to BamaAtl
And you seemed to have missed this as well:
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How is the AR-15 different from the Mini-14? Exact details please.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:31 pm to BamaAtl
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The US firearm death rate would lower to be in line (or better) than comparable countries.
In your opinion. If we completely eradicated gun homicides in this country, would it reduce overall homicides by ~10-20,000?
So for ease of digestion, say there are 100,000 homicides a year. 10,000 of those are gun homicides. If we enacted your measures I would expect to see a drop of overall homicides by 10,000 right?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:32 pm to SidewalkDawg
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They, quite literally, don't know this.
They do - lots of studies, the only ones showing results the NRA is proud of are debunked later (see: Lott).
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This is exactly the same argument you're going to be spouting off on this board after the next mass shooting if these changes are made.
It's not. What are you going to be spouting off after no changes are made and we have another preventable mass shooting?
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One of my position is that a gun free zones are a major attraction to mass shooters
That's a stupid position, unbacked by data. Remember, both MSD and other places had armed guards.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:33 pm to civiltiger07
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#1 in firearm ownership by a wide margin. 25th in firearm homicides.
Because many poor war-torn countries (see: Syria, Venezuela) beat us out in firearm homicides. Yeah, let's be okay being up there with them.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:34 pm to BamaAtl
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It's not. What are you going to be spouting off after no changes are made and we have another preventable mass shooting?
The last one was preventable if the cops had done their job, why are you not up in arms about the cops failures?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:34 pm to civiltiger07
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Interstate Highway (how many are killed every year on interstates?)
Never solely designed for military use btw. A nice side effect, but not the SOLE purpose.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You owe me work.
As you agreed, you have to first provide an analysis.
It's okay, you can admit you're incapable of it and I'll produce whatever foolishness you want. But you did say you'd go first, so live up to your word for once.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That wasn't my critique
You didn't have a critique. As we've established, you're shite with data.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:36 pm to BamaAtl
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another preventable mass shooting?
hey we agree on something! This tragedy was absolutely preventable. However the problem is the government absolutely failed these kids.
Your response however is lets give the government more power. I want the government to control a national gun registry, restrict access to firearms for people they see unfit and ban scary looking firearms.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:37 pm to BamaAtl
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Never solely designed for military use btw. A nice side effect, but not the SOLE purpose.
It's primary purpose and reason for construction was the transport of troops and supplies for national defense. The fact we get to use it as a quick way between cities is the nice side effect.
So, once again you are wrong.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:39 pm to SidewalkDawg
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So for ease of digestion, say there are 100,000 homicides a year. 10,000 of those are gun homicides. If we enacted your measures I would expect to see a drop of overall homicides by 10,000 right?
Probably not exact 1 to 1. There will always be people who are going to kill no matter what. But that's a small proportion of the overall, and the goal is to make it as hard as possible.
And that's not in my opinion re: firearm death rates coming in line with other comparable countries. That's what we expect, and the extreme outlier that is the US is driven by our excess of firearms and lax laws around them.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:39 pm to BamaAtl
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As you agreed, you have to first provide an analysis.
Wrong. Turn it in at any point...
I'm patient.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:39 pm to wickowick
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The last one was preventable if the cops had done their job
There's a thread on here today with you idiots whining that cops who did just that job in Washington violated a guy's rights and how there must be lawyers lining up to defend his easy win.
Make up your fricking backwards minds, you ignorant shits.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:39 pm to BamaAtl
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They do - lots of studies, the only ones showing results the NRA is proud of are debunked later (see: Lott).
Then why were these studies not included in the CDC review in the OP? They clearly represent a countpoint to the facts discussed in it and offer a much more clear picture of what needs to be studied more.
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That's a stupid position, unbacked by data. Remember, both MSD and other places had armed guards.
Yeah, MSD had a single resource officer not inside the school. That's a real big stretch you're making there.
Were you aware of the armed guard at Columbine that engaged Dylan and Eric while students evacuated? That's probably not convenient to the point you are trying to make. His name was Neil Gardner, google it.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:40 pm to BamaAtl
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You didn't have a critique.
Yes I did. I can explain that, too.
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