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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:17 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:17 pm to BamaAtl
quote:The only persons being force fed is yourself. You are the one appealing to authority. Not me.
I mean, who's going to take Harvard's word over "ignorant frick on the internet who clearly doesn't know anything about this that hasn't been force fed to him by the NRA?"
I. An think for myself, have critical thought skills and know how to apply them to poorly constructed studies. That has nothing to do with the NRA. Not sure why you’d even mention it. Oh wait I do... your ur grasping at the bogey man argument. Yet another poor attempt.
quote:He’s your poor source of choice. It’s teling.
Who indeed?
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:18 pm to Clames
quote:
2016 article with actual facts certainly trumps a 2012 op-ed full of half-truths and faulty reasoning.
An op-ed from the guy who crafted the amendment (which bears his name) stating his reasons for doing so and his belief that it should be repealed because of the chilling effect it has on gun violence research?
In your mind, that's trumped by another op-ed from a guy who didn't get the amendment named after him...because it came 4 years later?
You must really be terrified about how this has turned on you of late.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:18 pm to BamaAtl
quote:is your google broken again? Or are you going to try to use your ignorance as evidence again?
Link?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:19 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Automatic-like fire
Wow you just went full CNN and created a new term!
quote:
A bump stock reconfigures the weapon so that ones finger need not move to perform endless 'pulls'. Again, you're wasting time on semantics which really weakens any point you may have had.
The belt loop on my pants can do the same thing.
Well you see the ATF defines what a semi-auto is and what a full auto is. It’s pretty cut and dry.
So what do we do about people that can achieve “automatic like fire” with just their finger?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:19 pm to BamaAtl
Are you logged in on three different tabs right now? Slow it the frick down wierdo
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:20 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Notice... still no answer.
it contains features that no civilian needs in day to day life.
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Which features? Specifically.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:20 pm to SidewalkDawg
quote:
So Virgina Tech didn't happen in your world?
One of the things I've tried to stress, yet many of you conveniently ignore, is that there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, a panacea that will cure us of all ills around gun violence. That's why we need to have more than one reform, and pair it with things like better mental health care and strengthening mechanisms to identify when a shooting may happen.
While preventing mass shootings would be a great side effect of stricter gun control laws, the real aim should be to limit the daily murders by firearms that we see all over the country in such higher rates than other similar countries. You guys SAY you want to do that every time you point out places like Chicago, but we all know you're full of shite there like on so many other subjects.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:20 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
At this point you're arguing about shades of gray. "Automatic-like fire" and "Fully auto fire" kill proportionately more people second than other things, why quibble over a few rounds per minute?
Not true, well-placed rounds are more lethal than random burst. Where burst are good for more misses and hits that statistically speaking less lethal.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:22 pm to wickowick
quote:
Show me the study that this is true.
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:22 pm to Vacherie Saint
She's selfish. She wants this because she is driven by pathos, and wants us to be, too. That's why she lashes out about the "NRA gunhuggers" when no one lets her bullshite slide. She does the same shite with the ACA, although she's also in that for the money.
It's pathetic, and my main goal in any discussion with her is to make that known.
It's pathetic, and my main goal in any discussion with her is to make that known.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:22 pm to wickowick
quote:
Not true, well-placed rounds are more lethal than random burst.
He killed over 50 people and wounded almost 500 more. I'm not sure he was going for well-placed rounds, and neither do you if you're being honest (you're not).
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:22 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Which ones? Name them.
other features that make it exceptionally good at it
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:23 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
While preventing mass shootings would be a great side effect of stricter gun control laws, the real aim should be to limit the daily murders by firearms that we see all over the country in such higher rates than other similar countries.
Do you look at studies where demographics are taken into account when looking at daily murders?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:23 pm to BamaAtl
The problem is; no one believes you and your brethren when you say you don't want European style gun bans. You don't even believe it. You can keep saying it.... but literally no one believes you.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:24 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
You are the one appealing to authority.
You're dismissing said authority not on the basis of any actual error with his methodologies, but because his conclusions scare you. That's not a valid reason to reject a guy who objectively is an authority on the subject, even if the NRA tells you he's mean.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:24 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Suicide
Nope. Try again.
Also love the conflation of murder and homicide in that bullshite.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:25 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
is your google broken again?
No, but you're incorrect and it'd be fun to watch you point it out by not posting a link.
So, continue.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:25 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
One of the things I've tried to stress, yet many of you conveniently ignore, is that there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, a panacea that will cure us of all ills around gun violence. That's why we need to have more than one reform, and pair it with things like better mental health care and strengthening mechanisms to identify when a shooting may happen.
While preventing mass shootings would be a great side effect of stricter gun control laws, the real aim should be to limit the daily murders by firearms that we see all over the country in such higher rates than other similar countries. You guys SAY you want to do that every time you point out places like Chicago, but we all know you're full of shite there like on so many other subjects.
Then lets work on the overall problem. When you bring stuff to the table like "magazine size restrictions", "military appearance", etc. you're doing your goal a disservice.
Anyone who is considered an expert with firearms, who uses them and shoots them often will tell you that these things don't matter.
Again, you are focusing on a rifle that is responsible for less than 1% of all gun deaths in the country. Nothing being proposed (as far as assault weapon bans, or feature restrictions) would even touch the 5-6k deaths from pistols yearly.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:25 pm to BamaAtl
What year was that study?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:25 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
He killed over 50 people and wounded almost 500 more. I'm not sure he was going for well-placed rounds, and neither do you if you're being honest (you're not).
You don't know enough about firearms to make these points.
Just stop.
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